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Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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But quora is still around and very useful- maybe even more so than during the hype period

What kind of useful answers can be found on Quora these days?

I use it for just about everything. In fact if I could limit my google search answers to just quora, stackoverflow and reddit I would be satisfied.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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The crowd attracted to Clubhouse was mostly also on Twitter, so Twitter Spaces was a natural fit. I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter's purchase of and increasing integration with Revue has a similar impact on Substack for the same reason.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of useful answers can be found on Quora these days?

I use it for just about everything. In fact if I could limit my google search answers to just quora, stackoverflow and reddit I would be satisfied.

Quora has much more staying power than Clubhouse, which was a novelty even in its honeymoon period.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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Similar to Quora -- the hype was based on the initial exclusivity/SV celebrity factor. Once things opened up, average quality of content went way down.

But quora is still around and very useful- maybe even more so than during the hype period

The core "problem" with live audio is that you are drinking straight from the source of information as it is produced. With Quora, there is a ton of drivel or even spam, but that useless content sits around for a while and gets filtered out by some combination of moderation, voting, and search rankings. In contrast, with Clubhouse, you are instead highly reliant on personalities who are building reputation by having a high signal to noise ratio, which doesn't scale once the whole world is involved.

Additionally, the high-value people on the platform are themselves often there because of the other high-value people. If most of the rooms you go to speak in are just filled with a thousand fans, maybe you'd be better off using that tile to talk to your half a million followers on Twitter or Instagram. The experience of a small private club simply doesn't scale.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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I thought it was interesting to think about what Clubhouse was displacing. It felt the most analogous to radio. So, what could you do if you had radio at internet scale? Or what would it take to make internet scale radio successful? In my mind, it came down to how challenging it would be to produce and monetize content. It's non trivial work. Producing a good radio show that's worth listening to takes a lot of time a…

We've had Internet radio for almost 2 decades; it's called "podcasts". It's literally eaten "real" radio; NPR probably has more podcasts than broadcasts now.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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My hypothesis is that a lot of the early hype was down to people who liked the idea of being part of an exclusive club but didn't really like when everyone else was also part of the club. Then twitter launched "Spaces", meaning people could have a similar experience to clubhouse without building yet another social network.

This is absolutely correct. They build a nice map of everyone’s contacts and that was the value.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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The reason Clubhouse didn't have staying power is that there its value proposition is hypocritical, and therefore doesn't work: On Clubhouse, it only matters who's talking (for example, Elon). It doesn't matter who's listening. The more important the speaker is, the more it is a one-to-many broadcasting platform, and the less it matters if it's live. That makes it as useful as podcasts, which is already a saturated s…

Even if I take your first statement to be true, I'm not sure the rest of the comment follows. If we look over at video content livestreaming is popular (and increasingly so). Why have companies like Twitch been successful enough to be bought by Amazon rather than losing to YouTube or similar? Is there something special about audio that video doesn't have?

Yeah, audio is better suited for hands-free interaction, pseudo-anon interactions (which might be helpful for strangers talking to each other), much lower bandwidth requirements, etc. The ergonomics of audio is better, as there is no need to stay in frame. It also focuses the conversation more around what is being said rather than being distracted by someone's environment.

Re: Ask HN: What happened to Clubhouse?

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I thought clubhouse was a social media site now it's apparently: > Project management has never been easier > We bring the flow to your software team's workflow. Plan, collaborate, build, and measure success with Shortcut.

It's two different companies, which I guess was part of the motivation for clubhouse.io to change name to shortcut, since clubhouse.com became massively popular in a very short time

Heh yeah apparently there's more than one Clubhouse. I've never heard of any other besides the Jira competitor, and the OP just said "Clubhouse," not "Clubhouse social media" or anything like that. But I've been downvoted into oblivion, so I guess people think I'm trolling or something
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