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Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

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post #12

Everything is politics now, every single sub. No exception. That's my biggest problem. And no it wasn't always like this

Subs that celebrate other forms of tribalism seem to avoid politics pretty well.

Places where you see everyone rally around comments like "save that for r/politics. this is where we come to talk about how much the EAGLES suck, not the president."

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#53

I think it's regression to the mean. When reddit was relatively small it was possible for them to have a group that was, on some dimensions, above average. As reddit becomes larger and larger those dimensions return to the population mean. That feels like, and is, a decline in quality. Reddit has an inherent problem in that the only people who are moderators are the people with the time and inclination to be moderato…

>Reddit naturally incentives low effort content. This is true, and applies to pretty much the entire web at this point. Back when it was people blogging, and getting replies on other blogs, there was time to sit and ponder, and edit things, even after posting them, before they were read. We all want that feedback to know we've been heard, and our time spent writing and editing wasn't a total waste. The walled gardens…

What's dang?

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#54
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Average computer illiteracy across the entire internet population is down. I never got to experience the era of bulletin services, RSS feeds, emailing your friends, IRC. Where's the tech bro internet? Where's the cool internet with the learning curve? Where am I??

Tech bro internet is all in the metaverse. The entry fee is 3 NFTs.

I'd rather leave the internet

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#55
post #18

I have a feeling the entire internet became dumber. I miss the early 2000s days when it was still considered somewhat nerdy.

s/internet/people (not even sure if this is the right code, which illustrates my point I guess)

I think people overall got smarter. It's just that the really smart people know exactly how to split the dumb people against the not as dumb people. intelligence doesn't necessarily affect your ability to fall into tribalism, it just changes the weak points.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#56
post #44
post #12

Everything is politics now, every single sub. No exception. That's my biggest problem. And no it wasn't always like this

Yep, not true at all. My solution has been to just stick to smaller/niche subreddits that appeal to my interests but stay rather small. And I can (anecdotally) say that the majority of them are apolitical.

I just deleted my account over the current reddit situation with everything being about the war. It is important, but I have enough information overload as is without having to sift through 1000 russia/ukraine memes. Reddit calls itself "the front page of the internet" and the front page is very much political.

"but there is currently very little activity there for some of my interests."

my interest is mostly media and even before this past week it feels like every subs got polarized over the years. Anime subs drawing lines over what kinds of characters and genres you can talk about, gaming subs banning discussion of certain games over staff politics of a multi-thousand employee company, art subs devolving into arguments over nude figures (art subs, where you submit typical artistic exercises and expressions which include figure drawing). And you can make an entire essay about how r/movies has shifted over COVID.

They come from a good place, but they do not at all come from a realistic or reasonable one. And some are just outright toxic. Maybe if I could stick to something super niche like woodworking I'd be fine, but man has media as a whole just gone into overdrive where everything is political.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#57
post #12

Everything is politics now, every single sub. No exception. That's my biggest problem. And no it wasn't always like this

Subs that celebrate other forms of tribalism seem to avoid politics pretty well. Places where you see everyone rally around comments like "save that for r/politics. this is where we come to talk about how much the EAGLES suck, not the president."

From my experience it just ends up in different politics. For sports subs, it just takes some player being suspended over something said on twitter and suddenly it feels like r/poltics once again. And that seems to happen more and more often.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#58

2012? Reddit was already well past its prime before you joined. When everyone at Reddit was posting rage comics 24/7 (before 2012), I thought it couldn't get any worse, but it did. There are still some subreddits that are worth reading though. The trick is to focus on subjects that aren't interesting to people who are poorly educated or under the age of 25 (e.g., programming languages that are rarely used by junior p…

Yea, the super technical or philisophical subs tend to be some of the more laid back communities where it doesn't feel like you're being yelled down for having any semblance of counterargument to the circlerk.

It's too bad that sometimes I just wanna have a semi-coherent talk about a game or movie or tv show and that just doesn't happen on Reddit anymore. Either it's an inactive sub and you get 0-1 responses to a prompt, or it's a very active sub and suddenly you're being accused of being a shill or a troll or sockpuppet or any other kind of false flag because you dare have an opinion.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#59

It's been over-corporatized in an attempt for respectability, with the goal of finally making money. That's something that happens in waves, and eventually you're left with nothing of what you started with. Reddit has reacted to every media panic with waves of new censorship and subreddit bans. You can only do that so many times before you've actually handed your site over to people who 1) either never participated i…

>there's no reason why reddit should be valued any higher than a 4chan, and they're looking for one.

Part ways better PR (4chan rarely had "ban waves", and by design of the site and the community it's harder to make those stick). Part ways different focus; Reddit focused on regurgitating content, not the community. That came a few years later. Curation is always a valuable asset on the internet and the voting mechanic worked well enough in the beginning to curate pretty much any given topic.

Once that was set in stone, it was a seemless shift to target their growing audience with all kinds of ads and other engagement. 4chan remained more or less the same (focusing on image macros and community) while Reddit pursued to pretend to be facebook with it's newer features. The question that remains is will there be enough creators to keep the site in tow once the frustrated "old guard" inevitably leaves.

Re: Ask HN: Is Reddit Becoming Dumber?

#60
post #8

Yes, new generation of people online, older generation aged out. It's not you, reddit changed. It's time to move on and look back at your decade of use and ask what you really missed out in terms of community involvement and how the web has changed. Forums are dead. :(

>It's time to move on and look back at your decade of use and ask what you really missed out in terms of community involvement and how the web has changed. Forums are dead

I just wanted to enjoy some media puns without devolving into some banter of pedantry, political escalations out of nowhere (I like show -> I support [bad thing in one moment of one episode of show] and I am a bad person for it. What?), or well, no response at all because it seems there's little/no response on older forums.

Really does suck. Reddit isn't really for discussions anymore, and most media stuff I can find seems to have moved towards discord servers, which is horrible for long form discussion. I like the concept of nested discussion so I can just minimize that moment when two people argue for 50 comments, but I miss pretty much everything else about the old gamefaqs days, for instance. People can still be pricks but it didn't seem like the entire thread of EVERY post was being prickly.

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