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Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by dr-detroit »

haunter wrote: post #32

4K monitors. You need a soundbar though or some kind of audio setup + remote. Also no built-in tuner or such but I assume you get a set top box from your service provider or use a streaming device (Apple TV, Fire stick etc.) 4K OLED https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=7 4K IPS https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=2 4K VA https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P…

all it needs is a computer... then youre on the systemd botnet thats one hilarious tradeoff.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by yupper32 »

Why don't people like their Smart TVs? I've had a 4k smart TV for years and love it. Being able to stream without needing my phone is great.

It seems ironic that people are complaining about smart TV ads while the [2] link in the OP has an absolutely MASSIVE video ad that takes up 2/3s of the screen.

And it's not like you're not being tracked when you stream from a Roku stick / Chromecast.

Edit: I have a 4k Samsung that isn't laggy and in general is a very good experience.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by khedoros1 »

squiffsquiff wrote: post #17
jimjams wrote: post #2

Just don't connect it to the network or agree to any of the license clickthroughs, it can't do things behind your back then. HDMI and the RF tuner can still work fine.

You know that some devices essentially "require" network connectivity for initial setup? E.g. https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/tv/smart-tv-set-up-witho...

Yeah...mine shows a nag about not accepting the online agreements, connecting the TV to the network, etc. Hasn't stopped me from using it as a display for the inputs I was using on my previous non-smart TV.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by ramesh31 »

No, they no longer exist. TV manufacturers have correctly determined that data mining is actually far more profitable than just selling panels. It's gone from smart TVs being a value added feature to being something that subsidizes the cost of the display itself to the consumer through advertising. There's a huge race now to win the smart TV OS market that is driving companies like Roku to massive valuations based on that.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by DiabloD3 »

yupper32 wrote: post #52

Why don't people like their Smart TVs? I've had a 4k smart TV for years and love it. Being able to stream without needing my phone is great. It seems ironic that people are complaining about smart TV ads while the [2] link in the OP has an absolutely MASSIVE video ad that takes up 2/3s of the screen. And it's not like you're not being tracked when you stream from a Roku stick / Chromecast. Edit: I have a 4k Samsung t…

Always-on spyware that can brick your TV at any moment due to discontinued services you didn't consent. None of this hardware is useful for 90+% of TV purchasers, they're plugging it into an existing device and never using any self-hosted features, so it is just an added cost that only benefits advertisers and state sponsored actors.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by actually_a_dog »

Apreche wrote: post #26

One thing people haven't mentioned is that there are some non-smart televisions available that are marketed as extra large gaming monitors. For example, there's the Alienware 55" OLED Gaming Monitor and the ASUS ROG Swift PG65UQ that's 65".

That's interesting, but it doesn't look like you have many choices at the 55" size unless you're willing to pay double what I paid 4 years ago for my Sony.
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