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Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

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You can't forget something if you understood it. A concept is internalized when one understood the concept. Techniques to memorize something is not effective. Even worse techniques are glorified. Then one spends a lifetime polishing the techniques to memorize what they wanted to internalize in the first place. It's a trap. Want to memorize something? Try to really understand what's going on. You cannot forget somethi…

This may (may!) be true for something like math concepts that build on one another. But in OP's example, much of the CFA and CAIA is about man-made concepts, taxes and government regulations. What does 'understanding' even mean in this context? If you 'understood' what rule XYZ means about the fiduciary duty of a financial advisor, does that mean you'll always remember it, or be able to derive it from first principle…

You learn what the structure of tax logic look like so you know what kinds of regulations to expect and look for. It isn't like rules doesn't change in 20 years, but the way those rules are structured probably didn't change much.

So basically before learning you have to look up the entire logic, after learning it is like looking up a table and go through each point.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#52
Learning stuff involves creating new connections in your brain between different concepts. If you learn something by heart, it means the connections are very strong, and that if you think about one concept (e.g. finance), your brain automatically also activates (i.e. recalls) related information.

Most brains are pretty good at creating connections. It's very unlikely that even after coming back to the material a few months later, there are NO connections at all. It's just that these connections are not very strong, and therefore are not automatically activated. Another thing is that the brain is a network, so it often happens that concepts are connected in multiple ways than one (by going through other concepts). Basically this means, that if you're coming back to a book, you might at first not remember anything about it, but as soon as you've read a couple of lines (which activate these other neighboring concepts), it all comes back.

So how does this translate to real life steps you can do to improve it? 1. repetition. If you use a certain connection a lot, your brain will increase it's strength, meaning that as soon as one of the concepts is activated, the other is more likely to get activated as well (i.e. you recall it). 2. contextualization / intergration. Instead of increasing the strength of a connection, you can increase the amount of connections. This means to interact with the material while activating different mental concepts. For example, if you're reading about cooking, you can try to practice it. Or talk about the things you're learning with somebody. Trying to interact with the material with different 'viewpoints' (depending on the material this might or might not make sense) 3. Attention. This is kindof related to point 2; your brain has a limited capacity for active concepts, so if a large part of your brain's attention is somewhere else, it's hard to make any relevant connections. This also goes for being tired. 4. Rest. Your brain uses sleep to consolidate it's newly formed connections. So improving your sleep has a big effect on improving memory. Basically improve sleep health (fresh air, no heating, etc) and go to bed sober (no weed, or alcohol).

Because of point 2, and 3 it's better to learn something at the beginning of the day, instead of at night. I personally love to read before going to sleep, but sadly it's not the greatest for remembering.

As a general advice I'd like to add that, personally I too return to books after a couple of months, and I also often forget what they were about. I just start to read a couple of pages back, at most one chapter, if it has been a really long time. Most cases reading a small part will bring back enough, that you're able to continue. Don't get discouraged if you can't remember anything, and just allow your brain to be re-introduced to the concepts, you'll probably be surprised by how much has stuck.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#53
TOC and Index method

If I have to test on a topic I know sort of intuitively but look thing up each time I do it because I do it infrequently I do the follow to have all the details current.

I take a trusted source of information on the topic and paste the text into a word processor that can build table of contents and Indexes. Step 1 I use the Multilevel TOC heading feature and create a heading for each paragraph of the document. Splitting long paragraph into pieces. The act of having to write headings per paragraph means you have pay attention to the core meaning of it. (I use a 5 or 6 level deep Toc)

Step 2. Create an Index at the end of the document and use the semi automated Key word tagger to mark all occurrence of an expression. It should given you a 1 level index entry with many page numbers. Go to each entry and add a 2 level index tag descriptor until all the page numbers have 2 level entries.

By the time you are done you will have visited this document from many angles and repeatably read the information and have a well integrated understanding of it. If the document has procedural steps to follow when you tag one of those sections decide if you know how to do that or repeat the process for practice.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#54

Take a look at incremental reading -- the big app in this space is supermemo, but there are plugins for Anki (another app) that might make it work. Incremental reading is great because aside from tackling remembering things you've read, it also helps schedule what you're reading, so each day you have a 'session' and then what you read is decided by the program.

Don't think Anki has a fully baked implementation of incremental reading.

Polar [0] is an interesting implementation of a similar concept: read and annotate and turn your highlights into Anki flashcards automatically.

[0]: https://getpolarized.io

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#55

One of the most successful methods I've found for me is to rewrite the material. I haven't seen anyone suggest this yet. By rewriting the material, you are recoding it. You are forcing yourself to think about the information differently: what you are doing is explaining it to yourself. This to me is far more effective than something like highlighting, because in rewriting that material, you are also clarifying your u…

Yes, this is my approach too - I'll take extensive notes and/or rewrite the material. The way I do thinking and learning is essentially to write things down on paper - it doesn't work for everyone, but it does for me.

I also happen to use fountain pens for it, but I think that part is optional. :)

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

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People are giving app suggestions (supermemo, Anki), which is great, but the underlying concept is "spaced repetition" [0]. Tools like Anki (and supermemo, I presume) give you flash cards at an interval based on the spaced repetition idea. Our memory is structured so that we forget things at an exponential rate (exp(-a t)). The better we remember things, the smaller the coefficient (a). You can look around for pictur…

One of the best articles on SRS out there: https://www.gwern.net/Spaced-repetition

That is an incredibly beautiful website. Thank you for sharing!

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#60

Organization & Repetition. Any material which is worth knowing, but that will not become part of a routine (i.e coding patterns or structures that would be used everyday) which would enforce the learning through repetition will need to be reviewed/used/consumed at regular artificial interval instead. I've had a personal wiki for years, and moved to Obsidian.md two years ago. Content that I find usefull or worth keepi…

I like this approach. I'm likely to overload future me though. How do you determine where the limit is?
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