I used Pale Moon https://www.palemoon.org/ for several years and it was OK. I went back to Firefox because of some compatibility issues. Firefox needs some configuration in Settings and about:config , for example I turn off media.autoplay, Pdfjs, webassembly, etc, but YMMV. about:config is not available in standard FF mobile, only in FF Nightly. uBlock Origin plugin is essential, and I use Noscript for safety and speed, also Privacy Badger, etc. FF became really annoying, yes, but at least it's still possible to configure it, unlike most other browsers.
Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
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Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#52I just downloaded Edge based on some replies in here (though Safari is my daily driver, Firefox is my dev browser, Brave is my usual video conferencing browser but is pretty terrible at it) and boy does it take a long time to turn off all the crapware that comes with it. And even when you do, it comes back ten minutes later. I'm super impressed that Microsoft have managed to faithfully recreate the Windows experience…
I just did the same, seems nice for now. Yes, it takes a while to set it up but the same applies to any browser nowadays.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
To my knowledge the crypto rewards feature on Brave is opt-in. How is that an argument against Brave?
Notice how Brave had the weakest reasoning. A little talking point about crypto pushes it away, even though it's the only browser actually taking privacy seriously, not just as a marketing technique. Safari comes in second, but Apple actively cripples it due to the threat of PWA breaking the walled garden. You have to opt-in to Brave marketing like you mentioned. It allows people to earn BAT if they want to, so they…
Was the affiliation links inserted in the browser opt-in? Was the unethical business model to show custom ads in place of existing ones an accident? Or the crappy marketing campaign to lure content creators into their ecosystem by playing on ambiguous terms?
I own cryptos, I like cryptos, but the team behind Brave has proven to be scammy and unethical.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#54Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#55I just downloaded Edge based on some replies in here (though Safari is my daily driver, Firefox is my dev browser, Brave is my usual video conferencing browser but is pretty terrible at it) and boy does it take a long time to turn off all the crapware that comes with it. And even when you do, it comes back ten minutes later. I'm super impressed that Microsoft have managed to faithfully recreate the Windows experience…
I just did the same, seems nice for now. Yes, it takes a while to set it up but the same applies to any browser nowadays.
Not entirely disagreeing, but Safari comes out of the box as pretty much perfect.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Notice how Brave had the weakest reasoning. A little talking point about crypto pushes it away, even though it's the only browser actually taking privacy seriously, not just as a marketing technique. Safari comes in second, but Apple actively cripples it due to the threat of PWA breaking the walled garden. You have to opt-in to Brave marketing like you mentioned. It allows people to earn BAT if they want to, so they…
Was the affiliation links inserted in the browser opt-in? Was the unethical business model to show custom ads in place of existing ones an accident? Or the crappy marketing campaign to lure content creators into their ecosystem by playing on ambiguous terms? I own cryptos, I like cryptos, but the team behind Brave has proven to be scammy and unethical.
> Was the affiliation links inserted in the browser opt-in
I believe it was a mistake that it wasn't, and it was quickly made opt-in.
I think it's more scummy that Mozilla makes money from having Google as the default search engine, a still active campaign.
> Was the unethical business model to show custom ads in place of existing ones an accident?
As far as I know that's a lie, did they ever replace ads with blocked ads? Brave ads are text notifications, not banner ads.
> Or the crappy marketing campaign to lure content creators into their ecosystem by playing on ambiguous terms?
Nice word salad, doesn't mean much. Which marketing campaign, how are they luring, how are terms ambiguous, please expand.
> but the team behind Brave has proven to be scammy and unethical.
Yeah that's the punchline of the propaganda, but you should provide better reasoning if you want to convince anyone.
Your scale of ethics comparing browser companies is extremely inconsistent.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#57I switched from Firefox to Vivaldi. Yes, Vivaldi. There are some folks here complaining it has a lot of bloat and while that's true, I don't care. I like it. Why? * Based on Chrome. Unfortunately there's a lot of truth to the statement that "Chrome is the new IE", from the standpoint that modern sites are optimized (and tested) to run on Chrome. * The sidebar. Downloads, bookmarks, etc. are quickly available in a sim…
And it has ad blocking and disables tracking by default.
Regarding the slowness, I don't experience it. I just checked, and I have 506 tabs opened.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#58There's none, to be quite honest. Chrome is spyware, Edge is spyware, Brave has too many crypto sponsor for my liking, Firefox is going off a cliff, Vivaldi is the definition of bloat. The web browser ecosystem is frankly appalling, and it's so complicated it's impossible for new competitors to appear and improve the status quo. We just have to put up with it, and I am furious Mozilla, one of the shining beacons on t…
I feel like the 2000s internet would've just split off and made their own thing(e.g. new protocol) in this situation.
But it seems we've passed the inertia barrier for things like that.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#59ungoogled-chromium
It works for me (esp. with ublock origin), but I also use Safari, Brave, and Firefox depending on the situation.
Re: Ask HN: Any Decent Firefox Alternatives?
#60I've got my eye on the upcoming Orion Browser (macOS only). Built on Webkit, privacy focused.