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Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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# Multireddit

I created a multireddit to this and I use it to read information on the topic. https://www.reddit.com/user/jvlg/m/cryptocurrencies/

@GGfpc I think that this is a good way of tracking a topic in depth.

# Create a youtube channel to track a topic

You can create a youtube channel per topic of interest and use it to subscribe to channels related to the topic and even publish some content on it later.

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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HN is extremely skeptical about everything , because being skeptical about unproven things is a pretty important part of being an engineer

I've had a lot of interesting debates in the comment section and I fully agree with the OP. He's calling it skeptical, but I'd say HN is an order of magnitude more skeptical about blockchain than any other topic. I'd pick a much harsher word. As a blockchain / crypto enthusiast I'm actually unable to have a meaningful discussion on HN. It's gotten to the point where I can't even bother to share my views in the commen…

> People are so dismissive and set that blockchain is a scam

I have never heard/read anyone on HN saying blockchain is a scam. Blockchain is a mathematical construct. If anyone says blockchain is a scam, he/she/they may as well say addition is a scam, so is subtraction.

What IS scam, in my opinion, is the ability to exchange crypto currency for tangible and non abstract products that has a meaningful value in day to day life. Crypto is not backed by any real assets, hence my problem.

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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Follow the right people on twitter. I would start by following different crypto projects or topics on twitter. And then people that have interesting tweets.. look at their feed and follow. Here is a bitcoin topic I follow https://twitter.com/i/topics/1007360414114435072

I did that for 3 years, then stopped.

The signal-to-noise ratio is depressing.

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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HN is extremely skeptical about everything , because being skeptical about unproven things is a pretty important part of being an engineer

This is something I struggle with personally, because over the years I've trained my brain to look for weaknesses and reasons to say "no". It drives my wife nuts, because she sees it as being pessimistic about everything. To some extent it is, because I can very easily rattle off lists of "why that won't work" or "what's wrong with that", but it's a challenge for me to come up with lists of "why that would work". So…

> I can very easily rattle off lists of "why that won't work" or "what's wrong with that", but it's a challenge for me to come up with lists of "why that would work"

A framework I have found to temper this instinct involves shifting from predicting whether something will or won’t work to finding the smallest, most-plausible set of assumptions which need to be true (or false) for the idea to work. You’re still identifying potential weaknesses. But instead of resolving the question around that weakness with flippant dismissal or a gut-feel guess , you’re considering how to solve it and being explicit about the boundaries between what you know, what you could learn, and what you cannot know.

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a lot of interesting debates in the comment section and I fully agree with the OP. He's calling it skeptical, but I'd say HN is an order of magnitude more skeptical about blockchain than any other topic. I'd pick a much harsher word. As a blockchain / crypto enthusiast I'm actually unable to have a meaningful discussion on HN. It's gotten to the point where I can't even bother to share my views in the commen…

> People are so dismissive and set that blockchain is a scam I have never heard/read anyone on HN saying blockchain is a scam. Blockchain is a mathematical construct. If anyone says blockchain is a scam, he/she/they may as well say addition is a scam, so is subtraction. What IS scam, in my opinion, is the ability to exchange crypto currency for tangible and non abstract products that has a meaningful value in day to…

> Crypto is not backed by any real assets

As is fiat money.

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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HN is extremely skeptical about everything , because being skeptical about unproven things is a pretty important part of being an engineer

Sorry but no. While every community that portrays itself as “rational” would like to think that it is unbiased and skeptical toward everything, the same basic human social dynamics still apply. HN is aggressively anti-crypto to the point where I don’t even bother reading comments on related links. It’s become a Pavlovian 2 minutes hate, every. Single. Time.

well if you think about it, there aren't very many people who are fully on-board with any given cryptocurrency, conceptually, who don't also have literally vested interests in said cryptocurrency. when you have literally vested interests in something, you're going to be defensive about your investment, possibly to the point of emotional irrationality. this makes conversation between the invested and the skeptics pretty useless most of the time—if a skeptic were to convince an investor that their cryptocurrency is bad, then they would pull out of investing in it. if an investor were to convince a skeptic that their cryptocurrency is good, then they would likely also become an investor.

put another way, there are broadly four possible types of people who would discuss cryptocurrencies on a website like this:

A) crypto fans who have invested in crypto

B) crypto fans who have not invested in crypto

C) crypto skeptics who have invested in crypto

D) crypto skeptics who have not invested in crypto

for obvious reasons, you aren't going to find many—if any—people in categories B and C, so that leaves categories A and D arguing with each other, and largely unlikely to change each others' minds—especially category A, because, again, they are literally invested in the thing they're a fan of.

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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HN is the HN of cryptocurrency. ;-)

Yep, nothing gets me salivating as much as the idea of a digital Euro issued by the EU, implemented to be fully private (can't see sender/receiver/transaction count/transaction amounts), bulletproofs [0], combined with view keys that are single-use only when the law needs to intervene. Zero-knowledge proofs used to determine if I paid my taxes without knowing how much I earn and similar exotic behavior. Was quite sur…

Or you could use a decentralized and fully private crypto like Monero?

Re: Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?

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Personally I'd recommend to stay off of Twitter. The signal-to-noise ratio is depressing, even if you follow "the right people".

I've found more value in newsletters: - https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-d... - https://ethhub.substack.com/ - https://weekinethereum.substack.com/

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