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end-to-end encrypted with encryption key managed by WhatsApp/FB. Users don't own the key.
I thought you generated the key pair on your device and never sent the private key, not even to WhatsApp? Isn't that the idea behind the Signal protocol, which WhatsApp uses?
Ask HN: How does WhatsApp make money?
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Re: Ask HN: How does WhatsApp make money?
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I thought you generated the key pair on your device and never sent the private key, not even to WhatsApp? Isn't that the idea behind the Signal protocol, which WhatsApp uses?
That's the theory. The closed source nature means that the WhatsApp app could send the key back to WhatsApp. How would you know if it does or doesn't?
Re: Ask HN: How does WhatsApp make money?
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That's the theory. The closed source nature means that the WhatsApp app could send the key back to WhatsApp. How would you know if it does or doesn't?
Analyze the traffic between your phone and the Internet?
Re: Ask HN: How does WhatsApp make money?
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whoa. this is one reason i am STILL NOT ON WHATSAPP..... seriously. this comes from back when truecaller was introduced and i had an iphone. saw permission to access contacts. never used the app, even today. same for whatsapp or facebook. call me paranoid, but i don't want being "linked". same reason i dont have a google account and even though i have been using an android device for the past 2 years, there is no acc…
I have a "junk" Google account on my phone. It's not linked to anything except my phone. I don't even know the account name. It means I can't use in-app payments, and will never pay for an app, but at least I can download essential (to me) apps like banking apps from the Play store.
Re: Ask HN: How does WhatsApp make money?
#55At the moment Zero. WhatsApp on its own doesn't make any money at all. Apart from some meta data about you and your contact. But WhatsApp on itself doesn't cost much to run. They had 1B user and was running it on 50 Big FreeBSD Box. With a tiny engineering team. And that was with Hardware and Software from 6 - 7 years ago. Modern Hardware with all the BEAM VM improvement would made it even lower. ( Kind of Amazing if…
Do you have any source for this? And more information about their infra costs?
They had to switch to Linux once they were acquired by Facebook to keep a common platform.
Re: Ask HN: How does WhatsApp make money?
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I have a "junk" Google account on my phone. It's not linked to anything except my phone. I don't even know the account name. It means I can't use in-app payments, and will never pay for an app, but at least I can download essential (to me) apps like banking apps from the Play store.
oh. why dont you try aurora store? that app allows you to download actual play store apps which is what i use. it uses anonymous google accounts to login and give you access.