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Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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Say you worked in a software development organization that was dysfunctional, shipped updates 3-4 times a year and had lots of infighting/political battles between teams. A vendor came by talking about a new development process with a cool tool touting amazing features - do you think buying into this process plus tool is going to solve your organizational problems? Is tech the right tool to attempt solving societal p…

I think the answer is that technology absolutely can address social issues, it's just less direct than people might think.

One simple example: new technology can drastically lower the barrier to do things which inevitably democratizes them. Then teams don't have to rely on specialists to accomplish that task and the overhead of internal politics/poor communication/etc goes down. I bet spreadsheets saved a number of otherwise dysfunctional companies when they were introduced by letting small teams do their own analysis and operate independently. Sure, in some sense you're just letting individual teams work around the broader dysfunction of an organization, but sometimes that's exactly what you need to get out of a company-wide stalemate.

For all that people don't like fancy cloud tools and microservices, they play the same role at tech organizations. Having a lot of trouble with teams not integrating their code well and not playing well with your deployment/ops/etc team? Give each team the tools to deploy and manage their own services and they'll figure something out.

Not an expert on this phenomenon, but I think mobile payments and banking in developing countries is playing a similar role. I'm sure there are other examples along the same lines being developed and tested as we speak—not necessarily by startups though.

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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I do not understand people who think that trusting a company is all about geography or funding. The real trust should be built when you and everyone else can verify everything and speak up whenever something is wrong. Most companies do not even allow any reasonable verification (by closing their sources and schematics). Purism is the most transparent company I know.

The problem with the US specifically is that the intentions of the current team and founders doesn’t decide in the end. It’s entirely plausible for them to be compromised and gagged, against their will. It’s also not necessarily something that more than a very small number of people in the company needs to be aware of. This is due to how legislation and the operations of federal agencies work. Over the past decade, I…

1. Purism have the warrant canary.

2. You can check the source code and schematics. Can you do this for any other company in any other country?

3. At least there are courts in the US, not so in China. Practically all electronics is produced in China.

> My main gripe was the US location. And then they were acquired by Zoom.

So the actual problem turned out to be NOT the location, right? Purism is a Social Purpose Corporation, so it's hard (impossible?) to buy them.

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with the US specifically is that the intentions of the current team and founders doesn’t decide in the end. It’s entirely plausible for them to be compromised and gagged, against their will. It’s also not necessarily something that more than a very small number of people in the company needs to be aware of. This is due to how legislation and the operations of federal agencies work. Over the past decade, I…

1. Purism have the warrant canary. 2. You can check the source code and schematics. Can you do this for any other company in any other country? 3. At least there are courts in the US, not so in China. Practically all electronics is produced in China. > My main gripe was the US location. And then they were acquired by Zoom. So the actual problem turned out to be NOT the location, right? Purism is a Social Purpose Corp…

1. Can’t be trusted

2. I’m not saying I can recommend you a better company with a comparable product. But with the way they’re positioning themselves, they have extremely high standards to live up to.

3. Fair point. Let’s see how the Assange trials go.

Yes, China is a concern but if you’re going to provide a better alternative, why make your base and operations in one of the top 3 remaining global concern countries?

I’ve been keeping checking in on Purism for years and have been close to ordering early several times but this uneasiness is what has been preventing me from pulling the trigger.

You are totally free to make a different judgement call and I respect supporting a good cause where you believe in the team. I also do still hope that Purism does become successful and grow and the team is showing promising progress.

Sadly the US is just too corrupt to have this be trustable and sustainable as things look now. I hope they realize this and move. And that we see more actors in this space.

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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Plenty ( https://plenty.ag ) is trying to scale hydroponics using plant science and automation. (I worked here till a few months ago.) Indoor agriculture is going to supplement our nutrition needs in the future. Plenty is focusing on flavor as its selling point, and after eating Plenty produce, everything else seems like eating cardboard.

Why'd you leave--just curious?

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

#55

Say you worked in a software development organization that was dysfunctional, shipped updates 3-4 times a year and had lots of infighting/political battles between teams. A vendor came by talking about a new development process with a cool tool touting amazing features - do you think buying into this process plus tool is going to solve your organizational problems? Is tech the right tool to attempt solving societal p…

If I recall correctly, Tesla open sourced their patents in 2014. Couldn't other car companies implement their own version of Tesla's equipment and skip a significant portion of the R&D needed for EV development?

Obviously that would take more work than just buying directly from Tesla, but if they built their manufacturing line to supply their own Tesla-invented tech then they should be able to sell it to other manufacturers, right?

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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Say you worked in a software development organization that was dysfunctional, shipped updates 3-4 times a year and had lots of infighting/political battles between teams. A vendor came by talking about a new development process with a cool tool touting amazing features - do you think buying into this process plus tool is going to solve your organizational problems? Is tech the right tool to attempt solving societal p…

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Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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Say you worked in a software development organization that was dysfunctional, shipped updates 3-4 times a year and had lots of infighting/political battles between teams. A vendor came by talking about a new development process with a cool tool touting amazing features - do you think buying into this process plus tool is going to solve your organizational problems? Is tech the right tool to attempt solving societal p…

> do you think buying into this process plus tool is going to solve your organizational problems?

No, but broad agreement about what people value and visible signs that people are willing to spend resources on that would.

Electric cars are sexy now and people will spend money on them.

If this conversation is about organisational/behavioral change, then Tesla did create inexpensive electric vehicles. The fact that those vehicles are being designed, manufactured, and sold by totally separate companies is an implementation detail -- An inescapable result of the fact that lower cost requires larger scale and greater expertise with larger scale.

https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/cheapest-elect...

> To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence. Supreme excellence consists in achieving the continuation of our policy with other means -- Sun von Clauzwitz.

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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But what would a robot sufficiently smart/powerful to enslave us actually need us to do? Entertain them?

Sure. Pets. We could perform tricks in exchange for slices of robot made pizza. Sentient robots may get bored too. Weird bipedal monkey creatures with delusions of grandeur should be good for a laugh at least.

Mmmm, pizza!

https://youtu.be/okVM0sSwmNQ

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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A gas car dumping CO2 into the atmosphere contributes to climate change all over the world. Is it fair to the rapidly disappearing Maldives that Americans like gas guzzlers? Hell no. They get all the externalities of worldwide CO2 emissions, even though the Maldives is a tiny producer of carbon. That's not fair. However, if a Lithium mine in South America opens, and it wrecks and pollutes the land, the same place tha…

Sort of, the runoff ends up in the ocean, which would be a global concern too.

Wouldn't that depend on how far inland the mine is? Certainly, mining operations tend to pollute groundwater, but I wouldn't expect that a mine that's more than a few miles inland would significantly pollute the ocean via runoff.

Re: Ask HN: Any well funded tech companies tackling big, meaningful problems?

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I don't know that I would use Telsa as an example. Sure, they are replacing fossil fuels with renewables, but I see this as trading one dirty commodity for another. Lithium mining is environmentally damaging and the impact will likely get worse as demand increases. So maybe a step in the right direction, but definitely not a true solution.

Fair. But I do think "better = good". It fits my main query of 1. Well funded 2. Trying to solve meaningful problems
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