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Re: Ask HN: Do posts by authors with more karma rank higher?

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Post by dheera »

dang wrote: post #50
dheera wrote: post #49

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Thanks! This is helpful to know. I've seen lots of friends (including dozens of YC founders) ask for upvotes, usually via FB in ways that wouldn't necessarily constitute a ring (e.g. asking strangers in founder-friendly facebook groups), and they're usually of things worthy of publicity, and they do make it to the front page pretty quickly after the upvote requests. I've also seen a lot of instances where posting onc…

Assuming I'm reading the data correctly, your friends' votes were rejected by HN's software on that second submission. Randomness is the biggest factor on /newest, which is why we allow a small number of reposts to begin with: to give good submissions multiple cracks at the bat.

Thanks, helpful to know! I would have thought reposts would be penalized. Is there anyway to potentially mitigate the randomness factor though? For example by measuring things like impression time, bounce rate, and so on.

Re: Ask HN: Do posts by authors with more karma rank higher?

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Post by wglb »

Things that I have seen that influence whether a story will end up being ranked: 1) Timing. Early in the morning Eastern US time 2) The uniqueness of the posting. When everyone is posting COVID or protest stories, a story about an interesting astronomical event (e.g. PHA) is slightly more likely to get a kick. 3) I suspect that there may be a tendency to browse /newest by some folks and if they see submissions by posters they know, there may be a slight liklihood of upvotes.

Re: Ask HN: Do posts by authors with more karma rank higher?

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Post by wglb »

reitanqild wrote: post #44
majewsky wrote: post #40

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> when there is some news cycle and [the front page does not reflect it] Political news is discouraged by the site guidelines and quickly flagged by users without mods' intervention (source: I'm one of these users). If I want the latest Trump nonsense, I can go to MSNBC or Fox News or Colbert or whatever. I'd rather have more stuff on the front page which we can have a (mostly) constructive conversation about.

Some of us actually want to discuss politics with sane, smart people so I rarely flag thise stories (but I understand why you do.)

I think this is a dicey area for discussion. Political discussions have always, and particularly so today, essentially consisted of ripping off bits of dogma and throwing at each other. While my family and I are generally on the same page, I avoid political discussions with them as well.

I am often inclined to flag political threads here if they get egregiously bad. It very often gets to be the opposite of interesting.

Re: Ask HN: Do posts by authors with more karma rank higher?

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Post by reitanqild »

wglb wrote: post #53
reitanqild wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us actually want to discuss politics with sane, smart people so I rarely flag thise stories (but I understand why you do.)

I think this is a dicey area for discussion. Political discussions have always, and particularly so today, essentially consisted of ripping off bits of dogma and throwing at each other. While my family and I are generally on the same page, I avoid political discussions with them as well. I am often inclined to flag political threads here if they get egregiously bad. It very often gets to be the opposite of interestin…

> Political discussions have always, and particularly so today, essentially consisted of ripping off bits of dogma and throwing at each other.

Despite that I have actually learned stuff here from people that I originally disagreed deeply with.

(Oh, and I am also fairly sure certain people have/could learned/learn something from me, but thats up to them to seize the opportunity. d:-)

> I am often inclined to flag political threads here if they get egregiously bad.

I wish they were better but often I wish people could stick to flagging bad behavior instead of the entire thread.

That said, I am not here to challenge moderator decisions. Even with showdead on this place is fantastic compared to certain places I find it easy to compare with.

Re: Ask HN: Do posts by authors with more karma rank higher?

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Post by majewsky »

reitanqild wrote: post #55
wglb wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a dicey area for discussion. Political discussions have always, and particularly so today, essentially consisted of ripping off bits of dogma and throwing at each other. While my family and I are generally on the same page, I avoid political discussions with them as well. I am often inclined to flag political threads here if they get egregiously bad. It very often gets to be the opposite of interestin…

> Political discussions have always, and particularly so today, essentially consisted of ripping off bits of dogma and throwing at each other. Despite that I have actually learned stuff here from people that I originally disagreed deeply with. (Oh, and I am also fairly sure certain people have/could learned/learn something from me, but thats up to them to seize the opportunity. d:-) > I am often inclined to flag poli…

> Despite that I have actually learned stuff here from people that I originally disagreed deeply with.

Agreed. The incidence rate of people who can intelligently argue a controversial position is much higher here than in the average population.

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