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Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#51

A lot of us technical folks think the "hacker mindset" is an unfortunate, childlike simplification of what we do. I personally prefer solid engineering to "hacking". I strongly encourage you to make your non-technical folks aware of good engineering practices, instead of this "everyone needs to learn to code and have special snowflake hacker skills" mindset that has so permeated the industry.

I'm a "hacker" in my free time, doing projects to tinker, have fun and learn. At my job I am not a hacker. I am an engineer. I engineer solutions to corporate problems. It's not that interesting.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

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I have to admit, even I'm not sure what a "hacker mindset" is. As one technical cofounder to another, I think the most important thing is for you to understand the business side. Most importantly, how interpersonal skills matter and how emotions play out in a business setting. Beyond that, a solid understanding of scientific approaches to understanding is the second most important. Being able to tease apart correlati…

Do you know of any resources (books preferably) on learning to understand the business and emotional side that you are referring to?

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

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post #5

I have to admit, even I'm not sure what a "hacker mindset" is. As one technical cofounder to another, I think the most important thing is for you to understand the business side. Most importantly, how interpersonal skills matter and how emotions play out in a business setting. Beyond that, a solid understanding of scientific approaches to understanding is the second most important. Being able to tease apart correlati…

"well I did X and I'm successful so clearly X must work!" If they did something...and that thing was successful then by definition that thing they did...it works, right?

I've worn a tiger-warding talisman around my neck for years, and so far I haven't been attacked by a tiger.

Is it fair of me to assume that this talisman works, and that I can safely climb into a tiger enclosure?

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#56
The book "Coders At Work: Reflections on the Craft of Programming".

It is not a technical book.

It'll be as good as anything : ).

"Peter Seibel interviews 15 of the most interesting computer programmers alive today in Coders at Work, offering a companion volume to Apress’s highly acclaimed best-seller Founders at Work by Jessica Livingston. As the words “at work” suggest, Peter Seibel focuses on how his interviewees tackle the day-to-day work of programming, while revealing much more, like how they became great programmers, how they recognize programming talent in others, and what kinds of problems they find most interesting.

Hundreds of people have suggested names of programmers to interview on the Coders at Work web site: www.codersatwork.com. The complete list was 284 names. Having digested everyone’s feedback, we selected 15 folks who’ve been kind enough to agree to be interviewed:

Frances Allen: Pioneer in optimizing compilers, first woman to win the Turing Award (2006) and first female IBM fellow Joe Armstrong: Inventor of Erlang Joshua Bloch: Author of the Java collections framework, now at Google Bernie Cosell: One of the main software guys behind the original ARPANET IMPs and a master debugger Douglas Crockford: JSON founder, JavaScript architect at Yahoo! L. Peter Deutsch: Author of Ghostscript, implementer of Smalltalk-80 at Xerox PARC and Lisp 1.5 on PDP-1 Brendan Eich: Inventor of JavaScript, CTO of the Mozilla Corporation Brad Fitzpatrick: Writer of LiveJournal, OpenID, memcached, and Perlbal Dan Ingalls: Smalltalk implementor and designer Simon Peyton Jones: Coinventor of Haskell and lead designer of Glasgow Haskell Compiler Donald Knuth: Author of The Art of Computer Programming and creator of TeX Peter Norvig: Director of Research at Google and author of the standard text on AI Guy Steele: Coinventor of Scheme and part of the Common Lisp Gang of Five, currently working on Fortress Ken Thompson: Inventor of UNIX Jamie Zawinski: Author of XEmacs and early Netscape/Mozilla hacker"

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#58
Let me sum up all possible books about understanding the "hacker" (terrible word by the way, because of multiple meanings, which meaning are we talking about?) mindset, to a management perspective:

1) True "hackers" value knowledge over money.

2) True "hackers" value doing things once and doing them right, no matter how long that takes. (Compare to the business mindset of "we need it now", or "we needed it yesterday")

3) True "hackers" value taking ownership in their work, that is, whatever they work on becomes an extension of themselves, much like an artist working on a work of art.

4) True "hackers" are not about work-arounds. If/when work-arounds are used, it's because there there's an artificial timeframe (as might be found in the corporate world), and there's a lack of understanding in the infrastructure which created the need for that work-around.

But, all of these virtues run counter to the demands of business, which constantly wants more things done faster, cheaper, with more features, more complexity, less testing, and doesn't want to worry about problems that may be caused by all of those things in the future (less accountability) -- as long as customer revenue can be collected today.

You see, a true "hacker's" values -- are completely different than those of big business...

And business people wonder why there's stress and burnout among tech people...

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#59
post #47

The word "hacker" has been re-purposed so many times. IMO hacker culture includes but is not limited to computer engineering and science. It is about being so curious about a domain of knowledge that you end up learning it in its little details, and as result, you can bend that domain to your will. Hackers are often working on experimental stuff that have little to no commercial value but are still valuable in their…

> You can read a bit about computer hacker culture in the Jargon file.

The Jargon File is an artifact of "hacker culture" as it existed in the 1980s and early 1990s. I would hesitate to recommend it nowadays -- it's rather dated, and could lead an unaware reader to some false impressions.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#60
Harvard's CS50 Intro to Computer Science. Available on various platforms like edX and YouTube.

https://www.edx.org/course/cs50s-introduction-to-computer-sc...

Direct link to "Computational Thinking - CS50's Computer Science for Business Professionals 2017" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2f9h_-_Fv4

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