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Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

#51
There are some large E-ink display at bus stops in China

http://einkcn.com/post/216.html

https://www.sohu.com/a/330365162_100238338

I think it's a waste of tax-payers money. Besides why it's not been stolen yet?

For consumer electronics I found modern e-ink tablets have very good refresh rate. Watching video is pretty smooth.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

#52
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These things do exist (Sony DPT, Onyx Boox, ReMarkable) - they're just more expensive than you'd expect them to be considering what they can do.

Remarkable has a premium for the ability to write on the display with tactile feel and response time near identical to ordinary pen/pencil.

The Eink Carta generation (300dpi, 4-bit greyscale) has about 15Hz refresh rate when driven in 1bpp mode (black/white only). Combined with efficient partial refresh, this sounds like it'd not be more than a stylus sensor behind the display (as usual), and some software to properly translate this into partial refreshes.

The premium is not really high just from them having to spend particularly much. Either they make very nice margins on it, or it's really that expensive to get a screen that size.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

#54
The technology is there, but E Ink (the company) is steadfastly refusing to lower prices because they believe there's a market for this. Now go to Alibaba and find that you can get a flexible, full-color OLED sheet for the same price as a given size E Ink panel.

Go on eBay and buy an older NOOK device (they all ran Android) for $20, tape it to your wall, and point at your web page of choice.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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Have you looked at https://remarkable.com/ ? It's a little smaller, 12" diagonal. Dasung sells a 13.3" e-ink monitor: https://www.amazon.com/Dasung-Paperlike-13-3-E-Ink-Monitor/d...

Can anyone comment on the difficulty (for a hacker) of using Remarkable with Kindle books? I have a Kindle already, if that makes a difference in generating DRM-free files of content I already purchased reading rights to.

I love reading on my remarkable but using it with Kindle books has been a pain. You can break the Kindle DRM but it’s cumbersome.

Though my main pain point is that you lose the book position syncing you get with the Kindle hardware/apps.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

#56

32" e-ink panels exist but are still too expensive to be practical for home use: https://shopkits.eink.com/product/31-2˝-monochrome-epaper-di... The only commercial product I know of that uses it is from Visionect but it's a meant for digital signage rather than as a computer display: https://www.visionect.com/product/place-and-play-32/ . It's less expensive than their earlier system but still around $2500.

I thought that might be an awesome splurge someday, then I saw the refresh rate of 750ms. Nearly an entire second to see a screen repaint every time I move a cursor.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

#57
A Canvas Made of Pixels (claybavor.com)

The most interesting problem to tackle was “the blue glowing screen problem”.

One of the many ways that screens give themselves away as screens is by emitting light that is “out of character” with the surrounding environment. They can be too bright or too dark relative to the things around them, and indoors, displays often seem too blue.

I solved these problems with what I call “luminance matching”. The basic idea is to sample the light falling on the frame several times a second, and then adjust the display and image parameters so that what’s displayed is “correct” given the surrounding environment.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10900439

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

#59

There is a need gap for 'Affordable E-Ink large external displays'[1]. Dasung, Onyx have been market leaders in this category and they are expensive. There are E-ink tablets from several other manufacturers as mentioned in other comments, but they rarely are external displays. Then there are reliability issues with cheap DIY E-Ink displays, they don't last long and especially when displaying low refresh rate data lik…

Not only are Onyx expensive; they're basically unusable. A rooted Kobo H2O with koreader in landscape mode is vastly better. Sony is apparently still selling the DPT-RP1, and it still doesn't connect to Linux or read DjVu. I guess at least it has an OSX client.

>A rooted Kobo H2O with koreader in landscape mode is vastly better

What would be the interface for using it as external display? or are you telling about using it just as a document reader?; in that case it might not even serve OP's needs.

Re: Ask HN: Has any progress been made on large format E-ink displays?

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post #33

There is a need gap for 'Affordable E-Ink large external displays'[1]. Dasung, Onyx have been market leaders in this category and they are expensive. There are E-ink tablets from several other manufacturers as mentioned in other comments, but they rarely are external displays. Then there are reliability issues with cheap DIY E-Ink displays, they don't last long and especially when displaying low refresh rate data lik…

From previous discussions, I remember it being a company sitting on the tech.

You mean IP?
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