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Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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Hi there, I'm in NZ too. > Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, > and only people who have travelled recently AND show > symptoms are allowed to be tested. So they are assuming that they don't infect people either on the plane or when they land? This seems like dangerous thinking considering that the world is currently very aware of how contagious this is. Also are you saying that it's $3000 out of…

This sounds like it could make an interesting thesis. It also sounds like a nightmare for abuse. Maybe it could work if implemented by a big social network?

After Dan and I started discussing it by email, I found a Show HN with this! I'd like to see the data on a map, but in the meantime, I encourage everyone to contribute data to them.

https://covid19-reports-submit.paperform.co/

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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Are lawyers in Porto really that affordable? That is enticing. I'd love to talk this through just to have a non-actionable idea about the legality of this situation.

FFS you are in Porto Portugal? Are you watching the news? You can decide to work from home. First google result: https://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/economia/emprego/detalhe/tra... And second, please name the fucking company as for people to do the same and avoid it as much as possible.

It's not the legality or the right to work from home that is in question. You too live in a small country with too much corrupt politicians and networks of influence.

If I named the company I would be uniquely identified by my immediate superiors as soon as they read this. I might as well ask you if you have any job for me in a couple of months. I really like Porto.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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Are lawyers in Porto really that affordable? That is enticing. I'd love to talk this through just to have a non-actionable idea about the legality of this situation.

FFS you are in Porto Portugal? Are you watching the news? You can decide to work from home. First google result: https://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/economia/emprego/detalhe/tra... And second, please name the fucking company as for people to do the same and avoid it as much as possible.

I believe it will eventually be known, and I hope someone starts some kind of campaign to boycott companies who are doing things like this during this crisis.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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Fear of consequences and not having f-you pocket change. Isn't it enough?

I can't direct your life but you can navigate such temporary setbacks. Many, if not most, people will understand your situation, and in life it's more valuable to work with people who understand you than with people who have lots of money but don't care.

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Thank you.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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a) please confirm itself with the health authorities. I have heard very credible reports as well all these last weeks b) country is more important than EU region. Each country enacted their own rules wether you can decide for yourself to work from home is there is a possibility (Portugal for example both employee and employer can do it unilaterally)

Do you have a PGP public key?

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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Contact your local authorities non-emergency number. This is an emergency, but not immediately actionable (you don't need a firetruck right at this moment). Discuss the situation with them and they will hopefully act accordingly. Your workplace should be quarantined and sanitized, this is a major risk to public health. Best of luck.

This is actually an extremely important suggestion. I will check with authorities. Thank you.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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It was not a rumor, it was a very specific and detailed account that resulted in employee quarantines. The chain of influences is big enough and reaches into national government, with a confluence of interests. I'm afraid a leak to the press could be more effective than a report to the government. I believe t will eventually come up because these things are difficult to hide as time goes by.

Careers can be remade. You could go public and then run for political office. Don't be a slave to your employer's selfishness.

> run for political office

I'm a serious and honest simple man. :)

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

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Start coughing up the hierarchy. Once you cough on someone high enough I suspect the situation will solve itself. edit: Turning this approach 180 degrees, have the employees ask the people with power to change the policy what do they think the legal liability is in the case any of the employees or any of their family members dies?

whats the bet that the executive has a "chicken pox party" mentality.... Deciding to get it out of the way in the sphere of their control and making that decision for the workers on their behalf.

Executives tend to be older, so for them getting covid would be a foolish idea.
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