This whole article is great, but the first 2 paragraphs really resonated with me: http://www.loper-os.org/#selection-29.0-44.0 Here's an excerpt: Sadly, the above scenario is more truth than fiction – for computer enthusiasts. There is a particularly cruel discrepancy between what a creative child imagines the trade of a programmer to be like and what it actually is. When you are a teenager, alone with a (programmabl…
Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
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Re: Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
#52Hobby coders can escape into the unrestricted world of building stuff without limits to satisfy their imagination and curiosity. They can also change hobbies and increase or decrease the amount of time they want to spend on coding to stay in the sweet zone.
Paid coders can only carve out little, temporary nooks of freedom within the requirements and demands that come from somewhere that is external. In the best case they can dictate how things shall be built but the "what" part generally comes as given: from the boss, from the CTO, from the company strategy, from the customers if you're an entrepreneur coder.
If it takes 15 years to get bored with coding I can think of a number of professions where it would only take 1.5 months to get bored. Boredom doesn't equal all is lost. It's just a sign to work on something else for a while.
I've recovered the excitement of coding several times, sometimes through hobby coding and something through talking my way into some interesting work project. But your interest needs to spend some time elsewhere before you can find it again in coding.
Try testing, interfacing customers, managing, or change jobs. If you can, try a job that's not in IT to get some perspective. This should be considered an ongoing process anyway as you will be constantly rethinking your place in life anyway. The process might lead away from coding or getting back stronger than ever, but the goal is to find something that makes you tick again. How all that realises itself in practical work life is mostly secondary.
Re: Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
#53Let it flow.
Re: Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
#54Certainly one of the more predictable paths is moving up into engineering management.
In my case, after experiencing a bit of burnout in my late 20s, I debated between going back to school for an MBA---another common route in this scenario---and trying to find a more customer-oriented role within an interesting technology company. I ended up deciding to join a late-stage startup in order to help found their Solutions Architecture team, which has been an absolutely terrific experience. I could imagine going back to an engineering role in time, but I've enjoyed and learned so much traveling the world to work with a wide range of companies across industries---just long enough to understand their business and (hopefully) help resolve their core difficulties...
Feel free to message me (account @gmail) if you're interested in hearing about my experience or of course if you're looking for a new role (https://stripe.com/jobs/positions/solutions-architect).
Re: Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
#55Once you're experienced, it's pretty hard to find an exciting project that can stoke your fire because you've done it all before. Things just become an exercise.
How often do you get to work on a totally unsolved problem or world changing piece of software?
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#57It's a sign of burning out. I've felt the same way many times during my career. I started making websites when I was 15 (I'm 33 now) and moved to a management role. When I wasn't coding for the last few months, I realized I missed building stuff. I just quit my job this month and now looking for contract/freelance work. One thing I realized very late was I needed some kind of hobby outside writing code and spending t…
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#58I think it's natural to reach a plateau with whatever interests you, where you understand enough that the original challenge is gone, and/or you meet a new challenge that you can't overcome. Change something up, come at it from a different angle and you will probably regain your enthusiasm.
And can I just say, you are the first person I have ever heard say that 'talking to customers' is in any way 'fun'... :)
Re: Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
#59It's a sign of burning out. I've felt the same way many times during my career. I started making websites when I was 15 (I'm 33 now) and moved to a management role. When I wasn't coding for the last few months, I realized I missed building stuff. I just quit my job this month and now looking for contract/freelance work. One thing I realized very late was I needed some kind of hobby outside writing code and spending t…
Re: Ask HN: Is it normal to fall out of love with coding?
#60I have been coding for like 10 years now. I feel it has become more .... routine? Coding itself starts becoming a tool for me, a modeling tool that realizes when I speak to it, like I know soundly winter will freeze the water into ice, and fire can turn woods into ashes.
But I think that means for me that coding itself is probably not going to provide more challenges or growth I would expect into next stage of my life. Coding has to been associated with the problem I am trying to solve. After all, understanding a problem then dissecting it into solvable pieces is what is fun. I would try to seek problems at a bigger scale, and maybe that would bring new perspective of coding to me by facing ever growing complexity.