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Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

#51
Takedown by Tsutomo Shimomura

That's the story of how Kevin Mitnick got caught. Very controversial so I can't say it's good. I still enjoyed it back then.

Note that the question is about novels, and I think it is how you should read the book. I seriously doubt its credibility when it comes to facts.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

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post #6

Reamde , by Neal Stephenson. Yeah, the big daddy of cyberpunk ("Snowcrash") also wrote a contemporary technothriller set in organized cybercrime organizations.

Heard very mixed reviews of Reamde. Could you please tell me what elements you liked of the book? It's been on my reading list for a while but the mixed reviews always lead to it being left for another day

Its very different from Stephenson's other novels. Its much more of a thriller with a few tech elements thrown in. I really enjoyed it, but don't go in expecting another cryptonomicon.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

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I would recommend "Underground", a text-only e-book about (perhaps even by?) Kevin Mitnick, how the entire hacker scene got started, and through the cat-and-mouse game that led to Mitnick's eventual arrest.

Unfortunately, I cannot find a link to this work; although I did find uncountable similar books and movies on the topic.

Perhaps this will suffice as a teaser? "Catching Kevin" at Wired: https://www.wired.com/1996/02/catching/

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

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post #51

Takedown by Tsutomo Shimomura That's the story of how Kevin Mitnick got caught. Very controversial so I can't say it's good. I still enjoyed it back then. Note that the question is about novels, and I think it is how you should read the book. I seriously doubt its credibility when it comes to facts.

I will not downvote (as I don't agree that a downvote should be a disagreement, and you /are/ posting in earnest of discussion) however I can't avoid at least commenting on the fact that this is a terrible novel.

It's fact based, which is nice, however Tsutomo talks significantly more about food than Kevin in this book. Unendingly boring and light on details.

If I could get that week of my life back I would.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

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post #51

Takedown by Tsutomo Shimomura That's the story of how Kevin Mitnick got caught. Very controversial so I can't say it's good. I still enjoyed it back then. Note that the question is about novels, and I think it is how you should read the book. I seriously doubt its credibility when it comes to facts.

I never understood the fame of mitnick. He was a loser and not very talented. He is the equivalent of a Kardashian for fame

Kevin Paulson at least had some actual skills.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

#57
post #35

"Daemon" or "Kill Decision" by Daniel Suarez "Snow Crash" by Neil Stephenson

I'll second Daemon . It's a really good novel.

Agreed. For my tastes, a lot of tech thrillers are a little too "and then magic happens" when it comes to the tech details. Daemon's rich detail in this regard was appealing to me.

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

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post #23
post #11

Try Daemon and Freedom™ by Daniel Suarez.

Daemon was virtually unreadable. It's a hacker-themed fairtale for computer illiterate, basically. I had a non-techy friend borrow the book and they too couldn't finish it, because it was just way over acceptable believability limits even for them.

If you don't like something, I think it's better just to say that. Daemon is demonstrably not unreadable, in that quite a lot of people did read and enjoy it. So much so that Wired did an article on how it started as an underground hit among tech-inclined people: https://www.wired.com/2008/04/pl-print-20/

Re: Ask HN: Recommendations of good cybercrime novels?

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post #6

Reamde , by Neal Stephenson. Yeah, the big daddy of cyberpunk ("Snowcrash") also wrote a contemporary technothriller set in organized cybercrime organizations.

I'm a big Stephenson fan, and I thought Reamde was terrible.

His usual quirky pacing just turns into a dragging nightmare that never pays off, it's uncharacteristically full of questionable technical premises, and if it weren't for a few islands of genuinely entertaining scenes I would not have made it through.

I honestly believe it's the result of some suit pressuring him to write about topics people see on Dateline

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