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Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by handbanana »

mindcrime wrote: post #14

Salary range, description of office environment (and/or actual pictures), remote work policy, expected hours, dress code, tech stack details, some details on what the project actually is , and a quick "Joel test" like summary of the current development practices. Also, a note indicating whether or not managers refer to people as "resources". Also, the name of the actual development methodology (if any) that is in use…

This but missing one of the most important for me: PTO in days. If it's unlimited, that's vague and could mean 10-50 days, but it's better than not knowing

Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by handbanana »

misja111 wrote: post #38
mindcrime wrote: post #14

Salary range, description of office environment (and/or actual pictures), remote work policy, expected hours, dress code, tech stack details, some details on what the project actually is , and a quick "Joel test" like summary of the current development practices. Also, a note indicating whether or not managers refer to people as "resources". Also, the name of the actual development methodology (if any) that is in use…

+1 for salary range. It's bizar that some companies require you to first go through the entire interview process and only do the salary negotation at the end. At which point you might find out that there never was a possibility for a match and you both have wasted your time.

If you don't know the salary up front and they won't divulge that info, then why bother interviewing? How often would it be a pleasant surprise?

Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by handbanana »

mindcrime wrote: post #47
misja111 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 for salary range. It's bizar that some companies require you to first go through the entire interview process and only do the salary negotation at the end. At which point you might find out that there never was a possibility for a match and you both have wasted your time.

At which point you might find out that there never was a possibility for a match and you both have wasted your time. Exactly. It's ridiculous to do that. What's arguably even worse is when you know that the company knows what your salary expectations are ahead of time, and they still go through the entire process, and then at the end either come up with an offer that's way below your bar, or decline to make an offer…

Agreed. These days I'm always sure to communicate very clearly what my salary requirements are, and I haven't had that happen recently.

Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by cmorgan8506 »

klenwell wrote: post #50
mindcrime wrote: post #14

Salary range, description of office environment (and/or actual pictures), remote work policy, expected hours, dress code, tech stack details, some details on what the project actually is , and a quick "Joel test" like summary of the current development practices. Also, a note indicating whether or not managers refer to people as "resources". Also, the name of the actual development methodology (if any) that is in use…

In addition, a summary of the hiring process. The standard one-line HN Who's Hiring summary is also more informative than most the boilerplate crap I come across. Example: > FormulaFolios | Full-Stack Rails Developer | Costa Mesa, CA | ONSITE Full-Time | $80k-100k As a hiring manager, I've put a great deal of thought and effort not only in our job posting but in our whole process. It requires extra effort for sure, b…

Do you see any benefits on the hiring side of things when you're more transparent?

Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by jcadam »

- Does this job posting represent a real, urgent need or are you just fishing?

- Team Size

- Can I choose my own tools, or are you going to force Eclipse on me (deal-breaker)?

- Office environment. Open (no thanks)? Cubes (Meh)? Private offices (nice)?

- Salary range

- Average number of hours per week. Don't say 40 if it's really 60.

- Employee development. Do you send people to conferences (this is rare nowadays, and can really differentiate you as an employer)? Tuition assistance/reimbursement? Books?

- Health care benefits information (This is so variable that I always ask for this information before accepting an offer).

Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by blacksmythe »

sanderjd wrote: post #40
SteveNuts wrote: post #13

Whether or not the office is an open floorplan.

Honest question: do you ever come across companies that aren't open floor plans? I don't, so it isn't a very useful question.

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Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by calciphus »

cmorgan8506 wrote: post #22
mindcrime wrote: post #14

Salary range, description of office environment (and/or actual pictures), remote work policy, expected hours, dress code, tech stack details, some details on what the project actually is , and a quick "Joel test" like summary of the current development practices. Also, a note indicating whether or not managers refer to people as "resources". Also, the name of the actual development methodology (if any) that is in use…

> Also, a note indicating whether or not managers refer to people as "resources" This made me chuckle. It's a pretty accurate measure of a companies culture though.

At my last job we had a rule: if someone (usually a new manager) called people "resources", we called them "overhead".

Ex. "I could get more people on my team if we had less overhead".

It helped that our lead Agile Coach was the main advocate of this particular approach.

Re: Ask HN: What info do you wish every job posting included?

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Post by V-2 »

sanderjd wrote: post #40
SteveNuts wrote: post #13

Whether or not the office is an open floorplan.

Honest question: do you ever come across companies that aren't open floor plans? I don't, so it isn't a very useful question.

There are separate rooms (usually hosting about 3 to 10 devs) at the place where I'm at right now.

The previous company where I worked eventually ended up with open floors - once they grew and moved to a new building - but also provided closed rooms in the location before that.

I also happened to worked at our client's office, a large IT company based in Berlin, they had rooms again.

YMMV - depending on your location perhaps - but based on my experience it's not extraordinary at all.

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