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Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

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Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

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post #4

Some readers cannot detect duplicated posts.

This is very tricky to do. Let's say that it's the iPhone4 launch day and every story is about that phone. Some users might want all those duplicate posts, to get different perspectives on the story. Others might just be annoyed and want all those duplicates skipped.

I think filtering is probably the way to go in this case. Instead of detecting duplicates the reader should allow you to filter out all stories tagged "iPhone4".

Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

#52
I know it sounds like an ad - because it really is - but http://earlyedd.com wants to be the solution for the RSS problem (http://blog.earlyedd.com/post/739958248/the-problem).

EarlyEdd is the RSS reader that shapes on your interests. It discovers people reading pretty much the same stuff as you do (the fellows), and it compiles a relevant news edition especially for you. Give it a try ;)

Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

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post #7

I think I created a very nice feed reading experience with NewsBlur: http://www.newsblur.com . It shows the original site, allows you to read as you normally would, but keeps track of the stories you're scrolling past. It also allows you to filter stories based on what you like and dislike about them: words/phrases in the title, tags and categories, authors, and the publisher themselves. There is a slider that allows…

Awesome work! I'm definitely using this over Google Reader from now on!

But there are few tiny details I hope will be fixed soon: The "Original" tab is the default one - which slows down the whole thing if I open some content-heavy site, and the reason why I use feed readers in first place is not to have to watch those horrible sites at all, so it would be nice if we could change the default view.

The other thing is that there is no way to change the folder to which certain feed belongs. As well as someone before me commented, you can't delete feeds either.

Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

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I use and love Google Reader. I use the List mode (as opposed to Expanded) and my work flow is the same whether I'm at my desktop, iPhone, iPad, or Blackberry. A handful of feeds I insist on reading everything, which means I hit J-J-J-J to get through them all. But most I merely skim the unread titles for things that look interesting, and when I'm done I hit Mark As Read to clean up the rest. I like how I can do this…

Same here. I have a folder for must-read feeds (mostly close friends and a few VERY high-quality, low-volume feeds) then I categorize the rest by interest. I've also leveraged my friends who filter out the relatively few rare gems from insanely high-volume feeds such as BoingBoing, Engadget, RWW, TechCrunch, etc. It's awesome. I don't subscribe to them, but I still get the highlight reel on the good stuff because I network with like-minded folks on GReader.

I do monitor some high-volume feeds (HN among them) and I skim the feed then share the good stuff that I think my contacts will like. I star things that I want to revisit and permanently bookmark stuff that's highly relevant to my work or hobbies, genuinely awesome or fascinating.

Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

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post #22

Sit down and really write out your requirements. Two things will emerge from that exercise: 1. there probably is in fact a reader out there that meets it, you just haven't found it yet or 2. your requirements require solving the AI-complete problem of perfectly determining what you are interested in. Generally I find most people slot into #2. I am not kidding. I've been listening to this complaint for about 8 years n…

The problem of reasonably determining what someone is interested in from what they've previously read, skimmed and skipped shouldn't be "AI complete."

It only involves matching patterns to key-words. It might not be easy and the results might not be perfect but it seems possible. Using data from friends and finding the best correlates could help too. You could use the Netflix algorithm or other magic.

I suspect that's why today's readers don't satisfy - they aren't there yet and it's easy to imagine they could be.

Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

#58
Agreed. I put up a side project at http://beta.crunch3.com, which was an RSS-on-twitter concept. The interface is "slidey", similar to Pulse, but it gets relevant feeds from twitter, and takes screenshots like Google Fast Flip. I didn't continue development on it, so it's a little slow & the server will probably melt.

Re: Ask HN: Why do RSS Readers (mostly) suck?

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post #22

Sit down and really write out your requirements. Two things will emerge from that exercise: 1. there probably is in fact a reader out there that meets it, you just haven't found it yet or 2. your requirements require solving the AI-complete problem of perfectly determining what you are interested in. Generally I find most people slot into #2. I am not kidding. I've been listening to this complaint for about 8 years n…

The problem of reasonably determining what someone is interested in from what they've previously read, skimmed and skipped shouldn't be "AI complete." It only involves matching patterns to key-words. It might not be easy and the results might not be perfect but it seems possible. Using data from friends and finding the best correlates could help too. You could use the Netflix algorithm or other magic. I suspect that'…

I agree with your claim that recommendation algorithms aren't AI complete, but for different reasons.

"It only involves matching patterns to key-words." False. Recommendation might be far trickier.

Nonetheless, if you can do recommendation perfectly, it still doesn't mean that you can solve NLP, machine vision, control (robotics), planning, or any of the other major AI tasks.

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