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Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by jrockway »

ytilibitapmoc wrote: post #15
david927 wrote: post #6

After almost four years here, I've definitely felt recently that HN has jumped the shark. I'm also looking for alternatives. allyourstartuparebelongto.us looks promising.

I agree that HN has jumped the shark. As an example case, I dare you to try to express an opinion on HN which does not toe the party line. And for those of you about to down-vote this comment: where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN, where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp, where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age? "But those po…

I get upmodded when I criticize Lisp or useless startups. I think people are generally receptive to things that are contrary to the party line. Most of my Apple-hate comments don't even get downmodded anymore.

I don't think HN has jumped any sharks in this respect. But we do get a lot more "popular" articles now, and these lead to a lot of controversial-but-substanceless comments, which are annoying. (And I'm not saying I'm not guilty of writing comments like that, BTW.)

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by philwelch »

ytilibitapmoc wrote: post #15
david927 wrote: post #6

After almost four years here, I've definitely felt recently that HN has jumped the shark. I'm also looking for alternatives. allyourstartuparebelongto.us looks promising.

I agree that HN has jumped the shark. As an example case, I dare you to try to express an opinion on HN which does not toe the party line. And for those of you about to down-vote this comment: where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN, where are the articles showing the flaws in Lisp, where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age? "But those po…

"where are the articles pointing out the problems with HN"

This one's on the front page.

"where are the articles which denounce venture-capital-funded startups as the snake-oil of the modern age"

Anything and everything from 37signals usually hits the front page.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by epi0Bauqu »

what wrote: post #43
epi0Bauqu wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want the HN of 3 years ago, http://allyourstartuparebelongto.us/ is for you. I'm looking for a better domain name. Suggestions are welcome. I've been trying to get startup.co and techstartu.ps, but so far no luck. The submission/banning criteria is actionable startup advice for tech startup founders. Relevant tech is OK as long as it directly relates to or is obviously useful to startups. No news. And no polit…

About the box at the top for new and upcoming links: If you click "what's this?" and then "close help" it doesn't actually close the help. It just removes the close help link. Saw that you're busy in one of the later comments, but I thought I would mention it.

Thx--I've noticed that too.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by tmsh »

This is a little off topic. But I was browsing this thread (and enjoying it per usual), and then I realized that the voting system doesn't have to be one-dimensional. Imagine voting on a 2- or 3-dimensional axis. In this case, one might want to 'vote' towards an idea. Like say:

    [Good idea]
                  
                 [Ignorance]

            [Mistake]

 [Disagree with idea]
It would be more difficult to represent the frontpage, etc. Basically, things would cluster based on 'goals' or axes or what have you. But it might make reading things even more easy. It would be sort of tagging meets voting (but not really 'subject tagging' a la blogs or news websites, but 'response tagging').

The cool (and time-saving) thing would be that you could drift towards response tags that interest you as a reader. Per HN topic. And per HN globally.

Anyway, just an idea if anyone is thinking of experimenting with a new HN....

Ideally, I think you'd make the system as bottom-up as possible. There wouldn't be a set list of 'response tags' or 'vote tags', but there would be commonly-used ones that were readily accessible. Anyway, semantic-voting-ish.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by Jun8 »

I think it's a big loss for HN when these questions and discussions get posted on Reddit on another platform. A lot of the people here are young, but I feel they feel a need to be brainy or wide when posting here. Who says HN should be buttoned up?

But for people who feel that way, maybe we should have a "HN-unplugged" or "bleeding edge HN" forum.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by cx01 »

jaytee_clone wrote: post #24
steveplace wrote: post #4

Are you going to the "new" posts and upvoting the topics you feel deserve to be on the front page?

Yes. I don't really see how this solves my problem though. The design of HN is news oriented, not discussion or community oriented. And because it doesn't have categories, when the amount of submission reaches a certain size, up-voting "new" posts has marginal effect compares to random floods of submissions. A year and half ago, I was reading every "new" post, because I wanted to be fair, but it's just not feasible r…

A phpBB-like forum would be great. I think you should just go ahead and start it. I'd use it.

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by spatulon »

chime wrote: post #12

I love browsing through a tons of different subreddits that have now matured and grown very interesting. In decreasing order of interest to me: http://www.reddit.com/r/somethingimade/ http://www.reddit.com/r/longtext/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/ http://www.reddit.com/r/PhilosophyofScience/ http://www.reddit.com/r/cogsci/ http://www.reddit.com/r/startups/ http://www.reddit.com/r/math/ http://www.reddit.com/r/…

My reddit experience improved dramatically once I started to discover the smaller subreddits that relate to my interests and unsubscribed from the most popular default ones that have low signal:noise (/r/pics, /r/politics and /r/reddit.com come to mind).

Here are some more that might be of interest to the HN crowd:

http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/ (replace haskell with your language of choice, it's bound to exist)

http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/

http://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/

http://www.reddit.com/r/coding/ (a replacement for /r/programming, which has suffered due to its popularity)

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by Cmccann7 »

Hackers and Founders & Meetups in Hacker Dojo are great places for physical meetups in the bay area.

We also launched a product called HelpaStartupOut.com where startups and founders can post feedback, post educational articles, jobs etc. It's a simplified classified service for startups.

@jaytee_clone check it out and would love to hear feedback, the project is still very new chris [at] thestartupdigest.com

Re: Ask HN: HN Alternatives?

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Post by jeremyw »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #33
nanijoe wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if I'm the only one that websites with black backgrounds bother...

It's really easy on the eyes late at night and early in the morning.

Not for people over a certain age.. I'm never getting those nights and mornings back. :) It's really just retina-searing, sorry.

Other color options would be most welcome.

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