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Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?

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Post by lj3 »

swerner wrote: post #28

Pro: a description of not only what work you expect me to do, but also who I'll be doing it with. Team size, experience level of other team members, my role in the team. Con: Anything about fun company events and free drinks. I'm looking for work, not booking a cruise.

This. Who my manager is and who I'm potentially going to be working with on a daily basis is far more important to me than which version of Angular they use or that they have a ping pong table. But, I've never seen that in a job ad. I usually have to ask for names and even then it's a 50/50 shot whether they'll tell me.

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Post by Existenceblinks »

Pros: Whatever tools, back-end lang/framework I like

Cons: Whatever tools, front-end lang/framework I hate. (Yes, React and friends)

Not a joke, this is my real struggle. I love backend, and I love working with ui designers, elegant elements, so love frontend.

Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?

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Post by kyriakos »

brett40324 wrote: post #17

Pro: link to company career page with overview of hiring/onboarding process. Exaggerated, but not by much is: Con: Blanket requirements of conflicting language paradigms. Like, expert in (enter no less than 6 JS frameworks and build tools), also python, ruby, C#, and some Erlang is a plus. Oh, you also know AWS, and every RDMS and noSQL technology, MS SQL Server experience a plus.

Not exaggerated at all. I've seen job ads including those and something irrelevant like photoshop on top, i.e you might be needed to fill in for our designers from time to time.

Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?

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Post by kyriakos »

softwarefounder wrote: post #14

Having a requirement for knowing utility libraries. i.e. jQuery, underscore.js, MooTools, etc. I understand requiring frameworks (i.e. Anguar, React), but jQuery? Come on.

Listing jquery means that if you stopped using jquery 5 years ago you shouldn't apply for that position. It's actually good to know so you don't waste your time.

Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?

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Post by kyriakos »

fapjacks wrote: post #11

"Remote" positions where you can work from home every other Friday. If a position is under a butts-in-seats management style, the word "remote" should not be found anywhere in the description. Some remote positions have geographical limitations, which can be understandable from a tax perspective, but I also don't like to see "remote" positions open only to people in a specific timezone.

Timezone shouldn't be a factor. If I want to work overnight is my problem. Or I could easily just be available for meetings during the desired time zones but you can't exclude me as a candidate cause of my time zone.

Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?

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Post by flukus »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #32
softwarefounder wrote: post #14

Having a requirement for knowing utility libraries. i.e. jQuery, underscore.js, MooTools, etc. I understand requiring frameworks (i.e. Anguar, React), but jQuery? Come on.

What's wrong with listing jQuery? If it heavily used somewhere it's natural to want someone who's used it before. It's something you can learn on the job, but requirements are there because employers ideally want someone who can hit the ground running.

> but requirements are there because employers ideally want someone who can hit the ground running

This is the biggest con for me. Being able to hit the ground running depends much more on the employer than the future employee. Without knowing details about the state of the project (clean or spaghetti code) you can't possibly say if you can hit the ground running or not.

They may as well say "we only hire liars".

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Post by flukus »

brett40324 wrote: post #17

Pro: link to company career page with overview of hiring/onboarding process. Exaggerated, but not by much is: Con: Blanket requirements of conflicting language paradigms. Like, expert in (enter no less than 6 JS frameworks and build tools), also python, ruby, C#, and some Erlang is a plus. Oh, you also know AWS, and every RDMS and noSQL technology, MS SQL Server experience a plus.

I did a search for rust recently, just to see what the local market was like. All I got was a bunch of python web dev jobs that had a random listing of other languages.
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