Ask HN: What a 2nd tier college student must do to be at par with the best?

Agreed.

I think I am in quite a similar position to you: after secondary school here in Ireland, I didn't consider any universities outside of my home town (pretty much because I didn't know a single person who was considering bigger and better options, so it genuinely didn't cross my mind to apply to Stanford, CMU, MIT etc.) so I ended up going to a fairly average and not very well known university to study electronic engineering for my undergrad.

I went on an exchange for a year to UCLA and this was when I started to feel something similar to the sentiment you're expressing here.

I'm now in my 3rd year of undergrad EE and for the last year I've been trying to fast track myself into the AI / ML field as I've been increasingly regretting my EE major and becoming more and more interested and passionate about ML (particularly the intersection of ML, altruism and design): I got Norvig & Russell's textbook and read it in outside of my engineering classes, read less technical books like Nick Bostrom's Superintelligence for motivation / food for thought, made a simple collaborative filtering recommender system using the movielens open source dataset, moved away from the web dev stuff I'd been doing in 1st and 2nd year and tried to hone in on improving my algorithm and pure CS skills, watched a load of AI / ML videos to try and get a better sense of who's who, where's where and what's going on etc. in the field. The "dream" (I use that word loosely) is to do the google brain residency program instead of a PhD, or the U Chicago data science for social good fellowship, so I've been trying to figure out how to get myself into good shape for either of them.

It's been overwhelming at times, largely because I feel like 1) I'm not in the "right" major, 2) I've had a taste of but no longer "go to" UCLA (or an equivalent high ranking university) and won't be graduating from there so will need to work hard to stand out against the competition for placements / fellowships / internships 3) I don't have mentors or peers who can help me navigate the field (I have a great relationship with a lot of my engineering professors but again, it's not ML). So I'm sort of trying to make sense of it all myself. It's reassuring to hear there are others feeling similarly and it's great to hear all that you're doing!

On a positive note, I suspect you may be overestimating the educational superiority of the top tier schools (I know I certainly did before I went to UCLA) but at the same time I don't think it's fair to completely disregard the big unis and just say "circuit theory is circuit theory" and forget about it. While I was there, I really didn't notice all that much of a difference in terms of course content or even teaching quality - the biggest difference was there were an awful lot more high achiever students in my EE classes compared to in my home uni in Ireland, and there was a much more impressive "career fair" and internship opportunity scene than at home (think Irish Cement vs Hyperloop One).

You seem to be doing everything right. I think I was edging down a "burnout" path a couple of months ago with fretting over what you're saying and over my own EE vs CS major "challenge". I've tried to take a step back and remember that there's no one enforcing a particular pace or path for me, hopefully you won't let the fretting get in the way of your passion which almost happened to me.

Just wanted to comment this to warn you about the burnout thing, reassure you somewhat about top schools and throw in a few links you might find interesting for good measure!

You mightn't find any of these links below helpful, you very well may be much more well read than myself but I thought I'd link these here anyway. The first is a reassuring AMA on reddit from the google brain team (particularly the comments where the team talk about all the different backgrounds everyone has at google brain). The second is a list of programmes, fellowships, resources and random AI / ML related pages I've encountered in the last year (amongst a lot of other stuff ). The third is a playlist I made for a friend on interesting AI / ML videos which you most likely will have seen before but you might just enjoy anyway. The quick interviews are cool if you haven't seen them already.

Anyway - best of luck!

https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/4w6tsv/ama...

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxB_QX9z7BFSc7VRmy5zt...

keep on learning new stuff. make use of time. vit university has a good startup culture so try to find a startup and work on it. here is the some of the vit open source project where you can contribute 1)https://github.com/karthikb351/CaptchaParser 2)https://github.com/princebansal/MyVIT 3)https://github.com/shubhodeep9/go-MyVIT 4)https://github.com/aneesh-neelam/VITacademics 5)https://github.com/sch00lb0y/Vit-Photo

You're doing great. Don't stop your learning curve fall down. I feel that there are really very very less people like us in our country who have similar likes and views though they share almost same story like ours.I can understand the situation of student like me. I too am sophomore student at an Institute ranking way below yours but i feel it doesn't matter a lot specially in our field. I read so many things over internet like how i can develop myself up and so and so though i start everything i don't do anything good which i can show or prove to the world Trust me bro you can't match my level of procrastination. I haven't done anything except reading things over internet and i don't know why the heck i came here to suggest or advice you. But one thing i would like to tell you: don't let yourself feel down and fuck the negativities around you instead try utilizing and learning as much as you can in forthcoming years. There are hell lot of people who are there to help us out and internet is our best friend. I'm studying really hard to learn things around me and i feel you should do the same and make each second count for your better future. Good luck.

That course sounds amazing, you should blog about it.