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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by petermcnister25 »

researcher11 wrote: post #180

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop HEADLINE: Dump Mir!!!!! DESCRIPTION: I know Canonical has put a lot of effort into Mir and at this stage it is probably "too big to fail". But for various reasons my bet is that it will fail. I think this is Canonical repeating Microsoft's Metro mistake. I have a $12K dollar desktop and I don't want an OS optimized for phones !!! I will be able to avoid it but I would rather your engineering ef…

Not OP just honestly curious, of the $12k how much is dedicated to Canonical (donation/others)?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by daguu »

karlmdavis wrote: post #60

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

Another related issue: I have helped get a few co-workers set up with Ubuntu on their laptops. Inevitably, once every few months, one comes to me and says "I just ran an update and the 'Restart' popup came up, so I restarted, now my laptop says 'No bootable devices found.'" This happens when Ubuntu is installed in UEFI mode. A kernel update sometimes wipes out the boot image. To fix it, I to get into the BIOS and reselect a bootable UEFI image. This should never, ever happen.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by lomnakkus »

Qwertious wrote: post #460
gravypod wrote: post #210

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Replace X11 with Mir or Wayland - DESCRIPTION: X11 is old, slow, and full of security issues. Mir, even in alpha, is much more responsive and provies important 21st centry feature set. Wayland is already used by a major distro. X11 is that cobweb that's gone uncleaned in our closet for too long. - HEADLINE: Improve UI. - DESCRIPTION: When I use Ubuntu it's often easier to use the te…

The "X11 is full of security issues" is full if FUD, IME. Like, they say true-but-irrelevant-and-misleading statements like "any program running in an X11 server can view/alter any other program in the same X11 server, and Wayland fixes this" - this irrelevant because common security of practice, IIRC, is to run nested X11 servers and give each program its own. X11 also has a whole lot of commonly-used security/sandb…

> this irrelevant because common security of practice, IIRC, is to run nested X11 servers and give each program its own.

Really? I don't think I've ever seen such a setup.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by jandrese »

ronjouch wrote: post #71
tobltobs wrote: post #51

- FLAVOR: Desktop - HEADLINE: Option to disable all animations and transparency effects in Unity - DESCRIPTION: With a big (>=2560x1600) monitors and a not high-end graphic cards they are not smooth anymore anyway and my PC is freezing up randomly (but seldom) when switching between applications. - ROLE/AFFILIATION: developer

Ubuntu has exactly that since 16.04.1: 1. Open CompizConfig Settings Manager (if not installed, `sudo apt install compizconfig-settings-manager`) 2. Click the "Ubuntu Unity Plugin" plugin 3. At the bottom, "Enable Low Graphics Mode" 4? Restart Unity / reboot (? because I'm not sure it's necessary. See for yourself :) Agree it would be neat to surface the option in the regular System Settings panel, though. Source: ht…

For that matter, why isn't CompizConfig installed by default? So much stuff is hidden in there and it's impossible to discover without running across someone talking about it online. This is exactly the sort of thing that should be on the menu by default as "advanced compiz settings" or something like that.

On the other hand, discoverabiliy is still a big issue with Unity in general.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by mhall119 »

spamizbad wrote: post #379

OK here goes.. - FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Drop Mir & collaborate with Wayland - DESCRIPTION: I know this is a touchy subject and I'm not looking to self-righteously re-re-re-ligitage everything but... between Intel walking away, licensing concerns, Ubuntu varients not jumping onboard, and various community concerns, would you re-consider abandoning mir and joining forces with Wayland? I understand you felt…

> - HEADLINE: Drop Mir & collaborate with Wayland

That would more accurately be:

- HEADLINE: Port Unity 8 to be a Wayland compositor

This would be at least a multi-year effort. Consider how much time and effort went into porting Gnome Shell and KWin over to Wayland. It would be at least as much work do the same with Unity 8.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by magicbuzz »

gravypod wrote: post #210

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Replace X11 with Mir or Wayland - DESCRIPTION: X11 is old, slow, and full of security issues. Mir, even in alpha, is much more responsive and provies important 21st centry feature set. Wayland is already used by a major distro. X11 is that cobweb that's gone uncleaned in our closet for too long. - HEADLINE: Improve UI. - DESCRIPTION: When I use Ubuntu it's often easier to use the te…

+1 I have a 2 yr old MacBook Pro. In OS X, window manager performs seamlessly using the Intel inbuilt graphics. On Ubuntu 16.10, the window manager is slow to the point of taking half a second to update window borders whatever the app. Makes doing responsive web design frustrating to the point of wanting to switch to another OS. I am really hoping that 17.04/Mir improves on this.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by lph »

karlmdavis wrote: post #60

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

+1

Yes! Please!!

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by Shorel »

inglor wrote: post #348

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Windows subsystem - DESCRIPTION: Windows 10 lets you install Ubuntu as a subsystem and use it without dual booting. In practice, we _need_ windows tools (like WebDeploy) or GUI tools (like Photoshop) at work but would much rather use Ubuntu in general. The compromise (ubuntu subsystem) works but the other way around would be much better. I'm fine with paying for Win…

You need to convince MicroSoft first.
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