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Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Literally me on a DIY sub. I needed some advice, got auto removed, never went back.

Same. Not DIY, but my first post was rejected and I was banned. LOL. I guess that is moderation in action!

"excessive moderation" is a fun concept to think about.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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How would any new user earn karma in that system? How would any story get upvoted? Again, this system can only work if there are at least _some_ people that are willing to upvote newbies and read new posts. It sounds like what you want isn't a community with collaborative filtering, like Hacker News, but a newsletter with editors, like Slashdot for example.

People will need to participate otherwise there won't be any new content. I see it as just like vouching, except someone has to vouch for green accounts. A slightly more equitable (and easier to implement) version of lobste.rs' invite tree. What I want is for green accounts not to be abused as much as they are. The number of noxious, vitriolic troll alt accounts and bots is getting ridiculous. That is almost entirely…

I think you missed @sltkr's point. HN wouldn't just have less new content; it would fail to develop new users. That kind of stagnation is how sites like this die.

Aggressively filtering to raise the average post quality is a sugar rush and it has the metaphorical long term consequences of type-2 diabetes. Things start out feeling great but the acceleration of death is effectively guaranteed.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Filtering is a valid form of improving signals. If there there was a reliable heuristic for users posting low effort content that was better then the user would be considering that instead. If someone in a chatroom for example is being spammy with their messages at the expense of noticing posts one finds more relevant then blocking them isn't due to considering them some filthy pleb but improving their experience. If…

My system has been working pretty well: using some extension or another that has mute functionality, if I see a person post an extremely low quality comment, I look at their comment history for two or three pages. If there is no comment of value in that set, I mute the user. The board gets better each day.

Are you doing that here? What extension(s) do you use for it?

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Eventually HN is going to need to charge people $1 to post, just for spam filtering. Maybe donate the money to open source or something.

Ooh, it's time to pull out the classics! Please feel free to check the boxes as you see fit, as I am currently too lazy to have Claude do it for me. Your post advocates a ( ) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to va…

This is what I'm here for. Cheers! :-)

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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How about an opt-in toggle to display the year each account was created? randusername_2022 I'm right on the boundary of the slopocene, not sure if in or out.

So now we're going to create a black market for old HN accounts?

Am I too late to get ahead of the curve and stockpile some, while they're still relatively cheap?

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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I have long believed that whatever comes along to replace the reddit/HN etc type site will be based almost entirely on trust networks. i.e. only surface stories posted by or upvoted by those you trust, and the inverse with those you distrust. Then exponentially drop off trust transitively and it could be almost workable.

The risk is to build very good echo chambers. One shouldn’t have to read AI slop or despicable opinions during their free time, but some exposure to alternative respectable and not idiotic views should be part of the design.

Our starting position is the status quo, where site level echo chambers are near total.

X vs BlueSky is a thing after all. Reddit, wikipedia etc. are just farcical.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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I have long believed that whatever comes along to replace the reddit/HN etc type site will be based almost entirely on trust networks. i.e. only surface stories posted by or upvoted by those you trust, and the inverse with those you distrust. Then exponentially drop off trust transitively and it could be almost workable.

I sometimes feel like a paid newsletter that's curated by users would be fun. I'd happily pay €5 a month for a weekly/daily digest where the comments are en par with HN.

A few paid and unpaid newsletters have quietly become very big. Traffic from them completely eclipses this place, and because everyone gets the email at once it is a really sudden and painful spike.

Most I have encountered (generally via referral tracking) are heavily curated centrally though, and not by users.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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This problem can be solved by an invite/vouch for system. New account can be invited or vouched for by an old account with good karma. If an account that you vouched for starts spamming and/or slopposting, you lose your vouching for abilities for a period of time or forever.

I didn't know anybody here before I joined. (I have been here for a few years, and I still don't know anybody here.) How would a person like me get invited or vouched?

Ask you IRL friends or colleagues from your job "hey, do you happen to have an HN account?"

If the discussion is related to a public project, like in the examples in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47303604

...you can use existing communication channels (website, readme on github) to ask people for an invite to participate in it.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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I think your comment was generated by an LLM and hereby vote for your immediate and permanent instant ban.

I think that your comment was generated by Eliza, and hereby vote for you to get a karma boost for being Legit Old School, then an immediate and permanent instant ban. I'm joking, of course. If your comment was generated by Eliza it would have started with "How do you feel about 'I think your comment...'" :)

Is it because do I feel about 'i think my comment' that you came to me?
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