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Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#471

Start your own business & you COULD make way more than a FAANG salary!

Or with far higher likelihood, sending your entire saving down the drain

You don't have to quit your day job while starting a business. And a business can be started for nearly $0.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#472

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> There's plenty of CEOs (non-founders) who are billionaires. Being a business owner doesn't necessarily mean being the founder. No CEO is becoming a billionaire by collecting a paycheque. They might become a billionaire by accepting the right stock offer in lieu of wages, but that makes them the business owner again.

> No CEO is becoming a billionaire by collecting a paycheque. Yes, they can and do. Safra Catz, $2B - CEO Oracle Sheryl Sandberg, $2B - Meta Jamie Dimon, $1B+ - CEO Chase and many more (Andy Jassy, Tim Cook, Satyna Nadella, ...) https://www.forbes.com/profile/safra-catz/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/18/how-shery... . https://www.businessinsider.com/jamie-dimon-career

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Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's plenty of CEOs (non-founders) who are billionaires. Being a business owner doesn't necessarily mean being the founder. No CEO is becoming a billionaire by collecting a paycheque. They might become a billionaire by accepting the right stock offer in lieu of wages, but that makes them the business owner again.

> No CEO is becoming a billionaire by collecting a paycheque. Yes, they can and do. Safra Catz, $2B - CEO Oracle Sheryl Sandberg, $2B - Meta Jamie Dimon, $1B+ - CEO Chase and many more (Andy Jassy, Tim Cook, Satyna Nadella, ...) https://www.forbes.com/profile/safra-catz/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/18/how-shery... . https://www.businessinsider.com/jamie-dimon-career

Did you go to all of the trouble of writing that comment because you wanted us to laugh at you? All of those people are clearly in that position because they are business owners.

Granted, Catz seems to have recently sold off a large stake of her ownership. But the cash proceeds of that sale still came from being the owner at one point, not from a salary. Nobody becomes a billionaire off a regular paycheque.

Hell, even FAANG software developer compensation is really only notable because the total package includes becoming an owner of the company. The wage portion isn't that much different than any other random tech company.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#474

It's interesting how so many people have an aversion to being a business owner / entrepreneur, and will instead put in so much effort to optimize being a well-paid employee, instead of learning how to start and run a business. These salaries listed are great salaries, no doubt, but they are not dramatically more than say, a guy running a successful local plumbing business. And the ceiling is limited as an employee, w…

> These salaries listed are great salaries, no doubt, but they are not dramatically more than say, a guy running a successful local plumbing business

What about all the guys running unsuccessful local plumbing businesses?

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#475
post #147

Two tried and tested methods, neither guaranteed of course. 1) Be better than the overwhelming majority of your peers, and be noticed for this. You are quite likely to find interesting opportunities come your way. I do mean overwhelming though - small fraction of a percent. 2) Specialize in something most people can’t or won’t do. This includes difficult, obscure, and unpleasant work. In both cases some of the bigges…

I appreciate the sentiment, but I'll add that it is possible for difficult and obscure work to be quite pleasant, if you have the right skill set.

That wasn't meant as a logical and. Each of these things alone can lead to opportunities.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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post #147

Two tried and tested methods, neither guaranteed of course. 1) Be better than the overwhelming majority of your peers, and be noticed for this. You are quite likely to find interesting opportunities come your way. I do mean overwhelming though - small fraction of a percent. 2) Specialize in something most people can’t or won’t do. This includes difficult, obscure, and unpleasant work. In both cases some of the bigges…

Even if you're uniquely good at what you do, a lot of companies won't reward it. You do still have to look hard for those opportunities.

If you are actually that good, opportunities will tend to appear. You may not realize or pursue them, but they often do.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#478

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One word. Hardware. There is limitless opportunity outside of the webtech/adtech bullshit bubble. Go create a hardware startup, it's never been easier. It's still harder than adtech bullshit was 10 years ago, but the turnkey manufacturing industry is faaaar better than all the "hardware is hard" weekly blogspam would lead you to believe.

Any hints on how to even begin looking into this? There's a plethora of content on starting SaaS projects but can't say I've ever come across any for hardware.

That's gonna depend on your skills and what you think is interesting to pursue. Generally speaking you'll want to learn how to, at a minimum, model stuff and 3d print it, and how to design PCBs. I strongly suggest FreeCAD and KiCad for those tasks respectively.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#479

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> instead of learning how to start and run a business Because the stress and risks of running a small business as a solo inexperienced first time business owner are insane compared to a regular 9-5. Especially if you start hiring other people, your liability then increases 10 fold as now anything can happen with them (sick leave, absenteism, low performance, sabotage, etc) but you're still bound to the same deadlines…

isnt this the purpose of LLCs?

When you start up a business from scratch you quickly become familiar with bank requirements for a personal guarantee. The LLC will not protect you from personal financial exposure in the full amount of all your business credit facilities, loans, leases, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

#480
post #434

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There's nothing too terribly special about low level wizardry, other than you really _do_ need to understand how the hardware works, and how your language works. Oddball skills you really need to know (and can easily pick up if you have a mind to) include: a) Reading processor/part data books. These are your API docs. Most of your answers are in there if you care to look. b) Reading schematics. You don't need to be a…

This sounds like a typical embedded software engineer and I frequently see people around here complaining about the low salaries for these roles. What am I missing?

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