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Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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This is why I come to Hacker News.

This whole thread of folks arguing about PJs in public is reinforcing OP’s point IMO :)

Pretty sure it's just a matter of having drawn the line of "proper behaviour" in a different place instead of not actually caring about enforcing proper behaviour

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

probably combined with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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post #363

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You’re wrong on pretty much every measure here.

ah yes, the 10k€/m2 studio is probably my imagination.

I recently learned here on HN that you're probably just looking in the wrong place for a studio: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34528025#34528779

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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Those are a bunch of statements that angry people with agree with, but you haven't presented any evidence for your claims, and I think they're mostly backward. We're in the longest period of peace in thousands of years. Check out this cool graphic that puts in perspective: http://www.fallen.io/ww2/ People are mad about politics, but I don't think it's any worse than the cold-war, kennedy assassination, mcarthyism, be…

Not to sound adversarial, but you’re not presenting any evidence either. Where do you get that innovation is the fastest it’s ever been?

You’re not wrong, but THAT is the item you want evidence on? Especially here. This seems disingenuous.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

There are some pretty clear indications that the derivative of civilization is strongly negative at the moment, particularly if you live in Europe. Actually, the fact that people are supposed to pretend things are OK, while everyone over there is possibly a few steps away from being drafted into war, is another sign that things have headed in the wrong direction in exactly the manner OP is suggesting.

“Everyone” in Europe is definitely not a few steps from being drafted into war. This is ridiculous polemics.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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The neighborhood I moved into isn't exactly pretty nor clean, but overall liveable. Then, I am continuously annoyed at littering, finding puke on the pavement in front of the appartment building I live in, people can be loud, etc.

Thing is, I remember the area from visiting when I was a kid (like 30 years ago) and it was in a worse state back then.

Recently in the just-for-fun soccer practice team I met a guy probably in his mid-60ies who - after practice when we hang around - told a story from his childhood growing up next to the red light district. I asked where that was, and he grew up 200m away from the place where I live, same street.

The town I grew up in was just generally gray. Now its painted, has pedestrian zones, etc. When looking for an appartment a landlord showed me the storage area of an apartment in the basement, this storage area, he told me, had been in the past rented out to labourers, as in bunk-beds for 6 men. I asked him when it was and it turned out that this was during my lifetime (not turn of the 18th to 19th century or something, more like "the 80ies").

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

There are some pretty clear indications that the derivative of civilization is strongly negative at the moment, particularly if you live in Europe. Actually, the fact that people are supposed to pretend things are OK, while everyone over there is possibly a few steps away from being drafted into war, is another sign that things have headed in the wrong direction in exactly the manner OP is suggesting.

> everyone over there is possibly a few steps away from being drafted into war

Why do you think so? Might be different in Eastern Europe, but as a Central European I think it’s quite unlikely that a direct conflict is going to happen.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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Regarding subscription services, most people don't know how to use them. I use subscription services, but I only pay for the time I use. For example, if I need an app today, I will pay the subscription and cancel it next week when I need to do something else. I subscribe Netflix to watch one or two series, and cancel after it is done. Most people think it makes sense to keep paying a subscription for months on end, just for the sake of keeping it alive. These are the ones who are getting poor and filling the coffers of subscription services.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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This is pretty much just the inevitable consequence of a market-based, individualist society that is obsessed with removing any standards or expectations on behavior, cultural output, language use, dress, or anything else. Unfortunately, I don't expect things to improve until people start caring about their local communities (i.e. the other people around them) and "Society" in general in a concrete, actionable way, a…

Probably hard to do without religion. Dont mention europe. They have marginally larger governments.

I'm not sure how size of government is supposed to affect "expectations on behavior, cultural output, language use, dress, or anything else". Do European countries have Bureaus of Politeness and Decorum that send civil servants around to tell people to tuck their shirts in, queue properly, and be courteous to strangers?

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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post #7

I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

I’m always a little stunned when this (and many sibling comments) is almost always the first response to something like this. It’s probably generally true, and an appropriate response to the most dire decline narratives or things easily disproven by stats . . . But like also: really? None of this resonates with you on a personal level? If yes are you that distrustful of your own anecdata? If no: I hypothesize that you got significantly wealthier over the last decade and spent accordingly to choose/manage your surroundings, and/or live in a blessed location with a healthy friend/family group and a healthy relationship to social media. I think all of these are outliers to majority experience. It sometimes feels like there’s a Panglossian Gaslighting Society operating in threads like this.
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