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Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by rufus_foreman »

deepspace wrote: post #336
livinginfear wrote: post #283

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I have used nfshost for hosting multiple sites for over a decade. They're a fantastic service that's simple, secure, and provides great, fast support. They recently published this blog post: https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-... After reading this, I made the decision to move my hosting elsewhere. I have never hosted content that is even remotely political, and have no intention to do so. I…

Thank you for pointing out this blog post. I used NFS for many years but moved away a while ago for opportunistic reasons. However, after reading that post, I will make every effort to go back to them. "Freedom of speech" does not include hate speech or racist speech or any speech advocating against a group of people in my worldview, and I therefore agree 100% with NFS's stance. All freedoms have limits, agreed to by…

>> "Freedom of speech" does not include hate speech or racist speech or any speech advocating against a group of people

Freedom of speech includes all those things.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by totony »

deepspace wrote: post #336
livinginfear wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used nfshost for hosting multiple sites for over a decade. They're a fantastic service that's simple, secure, and provides great, fast support. They recently published this blog post: https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-... After reading this, I made the decision to move my hosting elsewhere. I have never hosted content that is even remotely political, and have no intention to do so. I…

Thank you for pointing out this blog post. I used NFS for many years but moved away a while ago for opportunistic reasons. However, after reading that post, I will make every effort to go back to them. "Freedom of speech" does not include hate speech or racist speech or any speech advocating against a group of people in my worldview, and I therefore agree 100% with NFS's stance. All freedoms have limits, agreed to by…

>All freedoms have limits, agreed to by reasonable people living in a reasonable society.

That's a deeply flawed stance. The meaning of "reasonable person" changes so often as to be able to mean anything.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by boogies »

tayo42 wrote: post #453
busymom0 wrote: post #345

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Politically incorrect things get labelled "racist" now a days. I, as a brown immigrant, get to criticize my home country all I want. I can call my home country corrupt, filthy, polluted, no regards for women rights, gay rights, caste system, rapes etc and be totally okay as long as the other person knows I am brown. But suddenly if a white person or someone with the wrong "political affilitation" says the same things…

This is a straw man, legitimate criticism isn't racist and no one says it is. If your idea of criticism is something like using a slur or stereotypes to make an argument then it is not politically correct. What's the criticism you want to give but feel like you can't?

> legitimate criticism isn't racist and no one says it is

Free speech means freedom to express “illegitimate” views, “the fullest liberty of professing and discussing, as a matter of ethical conviction, any doctrine, however immoral it may be considered”. No one has reached a universal agreement on what “legitimate” criticism is. Of course there are often prevailing societal opinions, but those change with the society. Eg. the Federalist Papers were largely written by someone who was literally labeled “illegitimate” by society at his time (and were full of slurs, stereotypes, etc.¹). Someone who got killed in a duel — the meaning of civility changes with the civilization. IMO ours is at a fairly high point at the moment (in part because of the value placed on tolerance for differing values), but it’s only a matter of time before it inevitably collapses much like the Greek and Roman ones before it (likely in part because of intolerance for free expression).

¹Eg. stereotyping the Republics of Greece and Italy as “petty” and slurring opponents as “advocates of despotism”. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Federalist_(Dawson)/9

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by jonny_eh »

leerob wrote: post #36

Check out Vercel! [1] You can deploy for free, with a single command, in a few minutes. Disclaimer: I work at Vercel, happy to answer any questions. [1]: http://vercel.com/

Best part of Vercel is that it supports web apps with back-ends that can make API calls (it's like "static site+"). It's my goto host these days. Love their framework next.js too.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by mod »

vinay427 wrote: post #402
orthecreedence wrote: post #393

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Yes but just in the land of the Free.

Source? I've never heard of this in the US or in other countries I've been in, although I wouldn't doubt it's the case somewhere.

Every major ISP I've used has disallowed hosting websites since about 2002 or so when Comcast, my provider at the time, changed their policy.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by Diesel555 »

messo wrote: post #219

Hosting a personal blog on old / cheap hardware at home and accepting some downtime now and then should be a trade-of worth making for most. An interconnected web of documents served from personal computers residing under a desk or in a basement – it is a beautiful thing. We nerds often seem to fall into the trap of over-engineering things, like, spending a lot of time building personal stuff that can scale into the…

I do the same thing. The only problem I have is with my mail server. Any email that comes from my dynamic IP address auto goes to junk for everyone. I send probably one every two weeks for password resets.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by acdha »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #437
chriswarbo wrote: post #371

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> I, as a brown immigrant, get to criticize my home country all I want. Countries are not people, so criticism of a country cannot be racist (it's a category error). Criticism of people of a country could be racist, but that's a different thing. Criticism of the government/establishment of a country could be racist, but again that's a different thing. Unfortunately these three separate things often get conflated and…

> Countries are not people, so criticism of a country cannot be racist (it's a category error). Technically true, but practically useless. What is a country other than a group of people? Almost all criticism of a country will inevitably be about people in it or their actions - with very few exceptions (ex. complaints about the geography, weather, etc).

It’s far from useless and even a cursory review will find many examples of criticism which says things about the people of a country being mislead, poorly served, etc. which is different from racist claims that they are innately disposed to be that way. The key part is acknowledging the fundamental humanity of the people you’re talking about – they may make choices we dislike but that’s a decision, not genetics.

For example, I grew up in California and heard a lot about Mexico’s problems — some people would repeat racist claims about Mexicans being lazy (despite them universally hiring undocumented workers for cheap labor) or dishonest, but others would correctly identify problems like corruption being due to things like the huge amounts of money from the U.S. drug trade ensuring that cartels regularly killed off non-corrupt officials, where the system didn’t work well for most people who didn’t have a choice and everyone involved having acting on the options available to them rather than some innate determinism or moral weakness.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by throwaway0x1 »

iamacyborg wrote: post #376
busymom0 wrote: post #359

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Anyone who refers to people as "mayonnaise" and "curry" are racist themselves.

Won’t someone please think of the white people

>Won’t someone please think of the white people

IMAX-level projection. All you can do is neurotically "think of the white people" all day.

Remember, soyboy self-loathing is a real, measurable phenomenon, and they're the only group who do it: https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/284875/am...

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by raarts »

deepspace wrote: post #336
livinginfear wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used nfshost for hosting multiple sites for over a decade. They're a fantastic service that's simple, secure, and provides great, fast support. They recently published this blog post: https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-... After reading this, I made the decision to move my hosting elsewhere. I have never hosted content that is even remotely political, and have no intention to do so. I…

Thank you for pointing out this blog post. I used NFS for many years but moved away a while ago for opportunistic reasons. However, after reading that post, I will make every effort to go back to them. "Freedom of speech" does not include hate speech or racist speech or any speech advocating against a group of people in my worldview, and I therefore agree 100% with NFS's stance. All freedoms have limits, agreed to by…

Neither you, nor GP knows what kind of speech exactly they were referring to. You're basing your decision on what you think they mean.

Re: Ask HN: Cheapest/easiest way to host a static site?

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Post by maxyurk »

In the past I compared downtime between github pages, firebase and gitlab using pingdome. Firebase had the most downtime, then github. Gitlab had zero downtime for months. Not sure it's the simplest but it was simple enough. Included Let's encrypt TLS out of the box and free support of custom domain name. Plus I configured auto deploy after each master commit with gitlab ci.
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