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Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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> Most women can't handle adversity Hmm... massively sexist comment, and not remotely true. Two relationships is not a valid sample size to make judgements about "most women" and likely your hindsight is a bit flawed given your ideas about women.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14999449

That doesn't remotely agree with your claim. That women feel more anxiety than men isn't remotely the same as saying most women can't handle adversity. Being anxious doesn't equate to not handling adversity, and if you read it this way it's simply more evidence of your sexism interfering with your reason.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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Vouched because it's a legitimate response. "Suck it up" is a totally valid response to "I'm soooo successful but I'm just _booooreeeddddddd_." "Get an executive coach" is a useful option as well.

Sounds to me like the man just needs someone to care for a little while, and maybe a chance to look at the world from a perspective not so intimately bound up with his troubles that he can't see past them any more. I know - who else in the world could ever empathize with that , right? Again, I get that it's a lot easier and more fun, especially on the Internet where no one seems quite real, just to be a contemptuous…

It's not really easy or fun, because you often end up with white knights swarming you.

He didn't say anything that you didn't say, he just used fewer words. Your original comment:

> if I had a serious prospect of ending up with genuine fuck-you money, and all I had to do to get it was keep doing what I was already doing and gut it out for a few more years, then that is precisely what I would do

In short: suck it up. You used more flowery language and a perhaps gentler delivery, but your message is the same.

> But whom, really, do you imagine it helping, to choose to act this way?

I'm of the opinion that a lot of people should be told to suck it up a lot more than they're being told today. My close friends and I often tell each other to suck it up, or equivalent, and it's not being contemptuous -- it's, for us, a reminder that life is actually pretty good and these are first-world problems.

The OP's phrasing, "I don't want to be a founder anymore", seems especially egregious for this forum. Not "I'm burnt out", or "how do you keep pressing on?", but "My successful startup is being bought and I don't want to be a founder any more". It would be like visiting a forum for college-aged NBA hopefuls and posting, "I'm about to sign a contract worth millions with the Kings but I don't want to be a professional basketball player anymore". It's almost intentionally crafted to be inflammatory.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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Obviously it's a subjective experience. If you are able to work in those types of jobs without hating that every second you spend there is a second doing menial low pay tasks; that it is a second of your life that's been wasted on meaningless shit work that you'll never get back then good for you. A substantial amount of people aren't like you.

Honestly, I hate to say this but your perspective here sounds more like outright arrogance than anything inherent to the job. You speak about these jobs as if they're utterly beneath you and inflicting misery on your time. I'll reiterate: I have done most of the jobs you mention, and while I certainly didn't feel personally fulfilled by them or buy into the company mission, I didn't spend my time in abject misery - I…

I spent about a decade in retail-ish jobs (started young). They are substantially easier to deal with when you know you have something else waiting for you. The difference between a lifer and a just-passing-through youngster is hard to overstate.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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Sounds to me like the man just needs someone to care for a little while, and maybe a chance to look at the world from a perspective not so intimately bound up with his troubles that he can't see past them any more. I know - who else in the world could ever empathize with that , right? Again, I get that it's a lot easier and more fun, especially on the Internet where no one seems quite real, just to be a contemptuous…

It's not really easy or fun, because you often end up with white knights swarming you. He didn't say anything that you didn't say, he just used fewer words. Your original comment: > if I had a serious prospect of ending up with genuine fuck-you money, and all I had to do to get it was keep doing what I was already doing and gut it out for a few more years, then that is precisely what I would do In short: suck it up .…

I gather you have a lot of opinions. One wonders how well, or how often, you're able to see past them.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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It's not really easy or fun, because you often end up with white knights swarming you. He didn't say anything that you didn't say, he just used fewer words. Your original comment: > if I had a serious prospect of ending up with genuine fuck-you money, and all I had to do to get it was keep doing what I was already doing and gut it out for a few more years, then that is precisely what I would do In short: suck it up .…

I gather you have a lot of opinions. One wonders how well, or how often, you're able to see past them.

lol k

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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If youre financially secure, and can line up a new job, which I'm imagining you are and you can...

Sure, fuck it, quit. Line up a new job at a big enterprise shop with lots of process and 9-5ers, tell them you'll start in 6 months. Spend that time exercising, enjoying your hobbies, and doing things with your wife/family/friends.

This board is filled with people who fetishize entrepreneurship, the responses are going to slant that way, take them with a grain if salt.

Hope everything works out for you.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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Please do not advise people who are clearly depressed to take mushrooms. Always remember that whats an elixir for may be poison for others. Yes, mushrooms do help anxieties BUT it is also known that if you are not in a good mental state, you can have bad trip and a bad trip... is not going to be relieving any anxiety, it will make it worse. That said, maybe Microdosing is okay. I agree with all of your other points b…

Anecdotally, bad trips do not cause bad feelings after a trip. The overall feeling of improved outlook can result even after a truly harrowing experience. That said, I agree that downing a bunch of psychotropics is probably not going to solve OP's problems.

Okay, I was trying to not put my experience on this website. But here goes

I did some in the first year of uni with a floor mate. Two sober.

When I was on it. I got the feeling as if I was in a prison, and started feeling like I was being experimented on. I got super paranoid and I'm bought I can fall asleep. Tripped for hours in my bed and my eyes were open, though they felt as if they were closed. I was told every now and then I would sit up like the undertaker from WWE and ask how do I get of mushrooms. Lol

Then apparently I went down and upstairs like 10 time. Reaching bottom I, I'd want to come back up. They wanted to get me out of the room but it just made me feel like I was being taken out for an experiment.

After a while, they tried to make me realize I was just tripping. We got downstairs and I yelled okay.. I get it.. I'm tripping balls.

I left out a lot of the details but, it was embarrassing that entire year since people knew I had a bad trip. I felt as if I might have said or done shit I did not remember too.

So, in summary, place, people, time, mental state and stability are all factors to be considered.

Btw on the comedown I was super introspective but could not differentiate it from a placebo.

The point of the original message of mine is to realize that there are no Soma pills (Brave New World reference). Nothing works for everyone. We just need to realize this and not suggest something potentially dangerous to someone who is clearly in a bad mental state at the moment.

OP you'll get through this. Diet, exercise, jogs, meditation will take you a long way. Also, tell your wife everything. She is your wife, you oughta be in it together. Also... if she doesn't get it then don't be upset; anger starts from an expectation.

I wish you the best of luck.

P.s I am going to delete this message after a couple of days since my story is too specific and I want to maintain some kind of annonymity.

Edit: so from my description it should be obvious that I am a socially awkward, introvert who is super self conscious. This is one reason it did not work for me. Think of psychedelics as breaking a mirror of the existence. It is really really ducking intense. I was better off doing it though. My point still stands. I am going to try microdosing when I can.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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(source: I've twice left my own companies- both companies continued to grow and prosper after I left). Personally, I'd suck it up and get the sale done, working hard to make the price as front-loaded as possible. Depending on the buyers appetite for you to keep working there you could: A) Suggest that you're excited to stay with the business, but if they feel there'd be too many chefs in the kitchen and that you shou…

Please do not advise people who are clearly depressed to take mushrooms. Always remember that whats an elixir for may be poison for others. Yes, mushrooms do help anxieties BUT it is also known that if you are not in a good mental state, you can have bad trip and a bad trip... is not going to be relieving any anxiety, it will make it worse. That said, maybe Microdosing is okay. I agree with all of your other points b…

I'm not remotely an expert, but this data seems way more compelling than anecdotes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/health/hallucinogenic-mus...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/01/magic-mushro...

http://time.com/4338947/magic-mushrooms-for-depression/

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to be a founder anymore

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It's not really easy or fun, because you often end up with white knights swarming you. He didn't say anything that you didn't say, he just used fewer words. Your original comment: > if I had a serious prospect of ending up with genuine fuck-you money, and all I had to do to get it was keep doing what I was already doing and gut it out for a few more years, then that is precisely what I would do In short: suck it up .…

I gather you have a lot of opinions. One wonders how well, or how often, you're able to see past them.

I've always found it interesting how the people who enjoy berating the need are always silent when their newfound victims decide life is no longer worth living.

The mentality of the misshapen, I suppose.

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