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Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#451
I used the Junie AI coding agent by JetBrains with Claude and ChatGPT engines to create a utility web page and service to track PRs by devs across multiple repos and tied to our ticketing system.

I did it as an experiment with my constraint being that I refused to edit code, but I did review the code it made and made it make fixes.

I didn’t do it as a one shot. Roughly, I:

* sketched out a layout on paper and photographed it (very rough) * I made a list of requirements and has the AI review and augment them * I asked ChatGPT outside of the IDE to come up an architecture and guidelines I could give to the agent * I presented all of that info to the AI as project guidelines and requirements * I then created individual tasks and had it complete them one by one. Create a UI with stubbed API calls and fake data, Create the service that talks to AzureDevOps and test it, create my Node service, Hook it all up, Add features and fix bugs.

Result, fairly clean code, very attractive and responsive UI, all requirements met.

My other developers loved and immediately started asking for new features. Each new feature was another agentic task, completed over 1-3 iterations.

So it wasn’t push button automatic, but I wrote 0% of it (code wise) and probably invested 6-8 total hours. My web dev skills are rusty, so I think the same thing would have taken 4-5 days and would not have looked as nice.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#452
One thing to call out, in my experience Coding Agents are bad a SwiftUI. Compared to doing JS frontends or any Python Backend work the difference is obvious.

I just don't think theres enough Swift in the LLMs corpus and the "right way" to do things in Swift has changes a few times in the last few years which I imagine compounds the sparse signal.

For SwiftUI work I'd personally recommend using Opus 4.5 with Axiom. Anytime you're designing something refer to Axiom, Claude needs its skills and agents to steer designs.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cards on the table: this stuff saps the joy from something I loved doing, and turns me into a manager of robots. I feel like it's narrowly really bad for me. I won't get rich and my field is becoming something far from what I signed up for. My skills long developed are being devalued by the second. I hate that using these tools increases wealth inequality and concentrates power with massive corporations. I wish it di…

> Cards on the table: this stuff saps the joy from something I loved doing, and turns me into a manager of robots. Pick two non-trivial tasks where you feel you can make a half-reasonable estimate on the time it should take, then time yourself. I'd be willing to bet that you don't complete it significantly faster with AI. And if you're not faster using AI, maybe ignore it like I and many others. If you enjoy writing…

> Sounds like you've already bought into the meme that AI is actually magical, and can do everything the hype train says. I'm unconvinced. Just because there's smoke coming from the bottle doesn't mean it's a genie. What's more likely, magic is real? Or someone's lying to sell something?

There are a lot of lies and BS out there in this moment, but it doesn't have to do everything the hype train says to have enough value that it will be adopted.

After my (getting to be long) career, there's a constant about software development: higher level abstractions will be used, because they enable people to either work faster, or they enable people who can't "grok" lower level abstractions to do things they couldn't before.

The output I can get from these tools today exceeds what I could've ever gotten from a junior developer before their existence, and it will never be worse than it is right now.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as someone who worked at the company, i understood the meaning behind the tweet without the additional clarification. i think she assumed too much shared context when making the tweet

A principal engineer at Google made a public post on the World Wide Web and assumed some shared Google/Claude-context. Do you hear yourself?

Do you think people who work at Google are perfect?

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am quoting the person that I responded to. Which linked to this: https://xcancel.com/rakyll/status/2007659740126761033#m > I’m not joking and this isn’t funny. We have been trying to build distributed agent orchestrators at Google since last year. There are various options, not everyone is aligned... I gave Cloud Code a description of the problem, it generated what we built last year in an hour. So I see one error.…

The key words in the quote are "not everyone is aligned". It's not about execution ability.

The key words are “one hour”. So what if there is some mealy-mouthed preamble?

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#457
I can really only describe my personal experience adequately vs the X hype, though there are enough influential/experienced devs out there who aren't part of the LLM industry who are saying they are having great success that I have to think that, that amount of smoke must mean fire.

Some background, I'm a "working manager" in that I have some IC responsibilities as well as my management duties, and I'm pretty good at written communication of requirements and expectations. I've also spent a number of years, reading more code than I write, and have a pretty high tolerance for code review at this point. Finally, I'm comfortable with the shift from my value being what I create, to what I help others create.

TLDR: Agentic coding is working very well for me, and allows me to automate things I would have never spent the time on before, and to build things that the team doesn't really have time to build.

Personally, I started testing the waters seriously with agentic coding last June, and it took probably 1-2 months of explicitly only using it with the goal of figuring out how to use it well. Over that time, I went from a high success rate on simple tasks, but mid-to-low success rate on complex tasks to generally a high success rate overall. That said, my process evolved a LOT. I went from simple prompts that lacked context, to large prompts that had a ton of context where I was trying to one-shot the results, to simple prompts, with a lot of questions and answers to build a prompt to build a plan to execute on.

My current process is basically, state a goal or a current problem, and ask for questions to clarify requirements and the goal. Work through those questions and answers which often makes me examine my assumptions, and tweak my overall goal. Eventually have enough clarity to have the agent generate a prompt to build a plan.

Clear out context and feed in that prompt, and have it ask additional questions if I have a strong feeling about direction and what I would personally build, if there's still some uncertainty that usually means I don't understand the space well enough to get a good plan, so I have it build instead with the intention of learning through building and throwing it away once I have more clarity.

Once we have a plan, have the agent break it down into prioritized user stories with individual tasks, tests, and implementation details. Read through those user stories to get a good idea of how I think I would build it so I have a good mental model for my expectations.

Clear out context and have the agent read in the user stories and start implementing. Early on in the implementation, I'll read 100% of the code generated to understand the foundation it's building. I'll often learn a few things, tweak the user stories and implementation plans, delete the generated code and try again. Once I have a solid foundation, I stop reading all the code, and start skimming the boilerplate code and focus only on the business rules / high complexity code.

I focus heavily on strong barriers between modules, and keeping things as stupidly simple as I can get away with. This helps the models produce good results because it requires less context.

Different models prompt differently. While the Opus/Sonnet family of models drive me nuts with their "personality", I'm generally better at getting good results out of them. The GPT series of models, I like the personality more, but kinda suck at getting good results out of them at this point. It takes some time to develop good intuition about how to prompt different models well. Some require more steering as to which files/directories to look in, others are great at discovering context on their own.

If the agent is going down a wrong path, it's usually better to clear context and reset than to try and steer your way out of screwed up context.

Get comfortable throwing away code, you'll get better results if you don't think of the generated code as precious.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#458
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> apparently completely written by Claude Code https://www.promptarmor.com/resources/claude-cowork-exfiltra... > Claude Cowork Exfiltrates files That explains it

OMG that's right, no human has ever written vulnerable code! Shut it down yall the AI thing is over!! This guy nailed it!

In this case the “vulnerability” if you can even call it that is so blindingly obvious that anyone who knows what a pen test is could’ve found it in a second. The only way this gets released in an otherwise-functional organization is going yolo mode with an LLM (or being willfully ignorant, or both).

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#459
Depends on your definition of works. I've shipped several subscription apps to iPhones/Androids that between them have thousands of users. Is the code good? Probably not. Are there glitches? You bet. But getting them onto the app store took less than a day's work and good money is coming in.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have any evidence that agentic coding works?

#460

I use Augment with Claud Opus 4.5 every day at my job. I barely ever write code by hand anymore. I don't blindly accept the code that it writes, I iterate with it. We review code at my work. I have absolutely found a lot of benefit from my tools. I've implemented several medium-scale projects that I anticipate would have taken 1-2 weeks manually, and took a day or so using agentic tools. A few very concrete advantage…

Same, Opus 4.5 is nothing short of amazing. I’m really shocked to see so many posts claiming it doesn’t work.

We write whole full scale Rust SaaS apps with few regressions.

I do novel machine learning research in about a 1/10 of the time it would have taken me.

A big thing is telling it to excessively log so it can see the execution

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