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Damned. I'd be tempted to write down in my resume "Company would've saved N million dollars and 5 years of their time had they listened to me" were it not such a double edged sword.

No one gets credit for "I told you so" - look at it this way, you didn't have the skill at the time to make the company listen to you.

How could you, in such a case?

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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A few years back, I interviewed with a company that specialized in air filtration products for hospitals and medical facilities. The company had grown rapidly during the COVID-19 pandemic and was gearing up to expand their facilities.

During my interview, I expressed skepticism in their long-term prospects -- I questioned whether the air filtration market would continue to grow in the post-COVID era... and they were very bullish about their outlook. Their argument was actually very convincing -- they were preparing to kick off development of a new product that was intended to address ongoing air filtration issues that were well known before COVID. Multiple American states were drafting legislation mandating the use of these products, so the market opportunity was immediate and growing.

After rejecting their initial offer, they raised the offer and I hesitantly accepted.

Shortly after joining, I set up a product data management system that worked really well, and the other engineers (even the grey-beard) quickly adopted it. I'm very proud of the work I did on that project, and it only took me 2 months to design and implement.

The next project ate up 2 years of my life. I was tasked with designing a medical smoke evacuator. Medical smoke evacuators had been around for almost 20 years at that point - there were numerous patents that were about to expire, so we didn't have to reinvent the wheel.

Our company founder had started his firm tinkering in a garage. He had no formal background in engineering or business management, and got lucky with the pandemic. As the company grew, he started spending ridiculous sums of money on a distributed sales and marketing team, many of whom he poached from competitors. On the engineering side, he converted multiple outside consultants into full-time employees.

Despite the incredible talent flowing into the company, our founder had no respect for the opinions of his employees. He had to have final say in all decisions, and his judgments always changed at the most inopportune time.

I built multiple functional prototypes of a benchtop smoke evacuator, each about the size of desktop computer. With some finishing touches, it could have been a hit. It worked really well.

Our founder shitcanned it, deciding that we needed to design an upright wheeled smoke evacuator instead. This ballooned the size and cost of the product - it had to be stable while supporting an articulating intake hose. Additionally, it had to have a huge touchscreen display, to show various air quality measurements (that very few customers actually needed). Lastly, it had to use a particular quiet (but somewhat underpowered) fan motor that he had already been ordered in large quantities.

At this point we only had 8 months left to develop a tradeshow-ready prototype. In the medical world, 2 years is not an uncommon development timeframe. So I worked my ass off.

Despite numerous obstacles (especially in wrangling with vendors and our electrical/software team), I managed to get a beautiful prototype ready and delivered to the tradeshow. Nestled among our older products, my product was the star of our show!

Post-tradeshow, I continued working on improving the design for production. I cranked out at least 60 drawings, got quotes from vendors, sent the quotes to our CFO for purchase approval. And waited. And waited. Weeks went by without action.

Behind the scenes, our company was starving for cashflow... the medical market was in a crunch, as hospitals had overspent during the pandemic. My interview market speculations a couple years prior had come true. Several members of our sales and marketing team were let go, along with one of my engineering coworkers. To stem the tide, our executives decided to go through another round of funding with our original investors. It was during this funding round that I found myself waiting for purchase orders to be sent.

Then we got our funding... in the worst way possible. The investing group got a majority share, and they moved immediately to push the founding CEO out (and who could blame them - the guy was a hack)! The consultants came in, hard questions got asked. And then a few days later my engineering VP told me that all NPD projects had been axed by the new CEO, including my smoke evacuator. My VP privately warned my team that we needed to start looking for... "other options".

A week later, I got laid off along with a coworker and our engineering VP. Just a couple weeks before I got married. Luckily, I got multiple interviews lined up in short order and was only unemployed for a short time.

So that was the most useless project I've ever worked on. Doomed from the start, despite my best efforts.

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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I once spent the first half of a job moving services off the private cloud into a public cloud, then the second half of my job moving the same things back to the private cloud, then my team was eliminated and i was laid off. I wasn’t even that mad because overall the team’s existence was a little silly in my opinion. Loved the guys i worked with though.

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Worse than useless -- net negative -- everything related to Iraq/Afghanistan. I didn't go over there because I thought it was a good idea (nation building in either place is dumb, and any conflict at all in Iraq was dumb), and while individual projects sometimes made things locally better (like, speeding up network connectivity on a specific base), it was overall a dumb project which made things worse because it was…

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Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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The quickest win would to move off of Heroku. Either rent your own server that you can control (to a reasonable degree), or find an alternative that doesn't suffer that issue. Redis would work but I'd be afraid of race conditions. There probably wouldn't be any, but it's something to be aware of. If you wanted to test the waters with at least the relative public, I'd consider doing step 1 of renting a server, but the…

Linode is super cheap. I pay 6 or 7 bucks a month for a bottom tier VM.

I guess I just haven't done anything outside of a PaaS before and I'm a bit worried about unknown unknowns. I'm sure I'm probably up to the task but managing my own server is just new ground for me. I'll have to research how to ensure that the server is always up or recovers from an unexpected failure and restarts immediately.

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one gets credit for "I told you so" - look at it this way, you didn't have the skill at the time to make the company listen to you.

How could you, in such a case?

I don't know, and maybe there was no solution. Just offering a different perspective.

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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Maybe you're right, I may be mistaken. Perhaps I should migrate to DO.

Actually, I should qualify this. If you use a PaaS (platform as a service, e.g. Heroku, DO App Platform, AWS EB), they might assume your app to be stateless and do things like restart it at will. If you use a VPS (virtual private server, e.g. DO Droplet, AWS EC2), this certainly shouldn’t happen, but of course it requires some Linux skills to maintain your VPS. So it’s basically a trade-off between engineering your a…

Yeah, indeed. I can try using a Droplet but I'm just new to managing a VM by hand. I've always used a PaaS for my projects so ensuring uptime and whatever other responsibilities there may be is new for me.

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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I spent a ridiculous amount of time and energy building out a retail technology exhibition space. Final spit and polish was like working through multiple weekends for 12+ hours a day. We opened like a month before covid. I don't think it accomplished anything besides stroking the CEOs ego and making for some really cool case studies.

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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I once worked for a VP who needed to sunset an old internal tool that people were unwilling to part with, so he asked me to make it suck intentionally. Added random sleeps to slow down performance. Random alert messages about fake errors. It was weird. EDIT: Since this is getting some votes I'll add some more details. He would also come by to tell me how happy he was about all the complaints he was getting about it.

I don’t mean to be the morality police, but that seems illegal.

The operative word is “internal” in OPs post.

Incentives and adoption goals for internal tools are weird at large corps. Intentional suckage is just another tool to drive migration

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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OK listen up dude. > I built the best site out there for playing magic the gathering online. No you didn't! You built the best site out there for playing trading card games . It just so happens that it's very easy to point to your own local card/rule sets, share them with peers, and play together online. And if the cards/rules being used by the clients happen to be MTG cards/rules, oh well! That's out of your hands.…

If it doesn't handle the card rules automatically for you, then it's way worse than MTG Arena or MTGO. I've played with free MTG software (cockatrice) and it's not close to the same thing, even though it has all the art and buttons for doing all the effects manually (I use this shortcut to draw 3 cards, this shortcut to put 2 back, this shortcut to exile someone's graveyard, etc). If they really built the best site f…

I'm not competing with Arena. Arena has a rules engine and great graphics. But Arena has a tonnnn of limitations and does not let you simply "build any deck you want and play with any number of friends in any format you choose." For what Arena is meant to do, Arena is better. That was never my goal.

I'm competing with Untap.in and Cockatrice, and what I built is just a much, much nicer version of those things. If you give me your email, I'll send you a link to it and you can try it out yourself if you'd like.

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