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Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#442
Hard to explain all the points you've mentioned with one single root cause, but if I were to pick one I would say: people don't care anymore because they're bored.

We've reached a level of comfort for most of the population that is probably akin to the wealthiest people at the worst point of decadence of the Roman Empire. There is nothing to do, nothing to thrive for. The nation is not even working towards anything as a collective. Leaders have no interest in solving the current challenges (poverty, homelessness, hunger, etc) because they help keep the population in check.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#443
Everything is pretty much the same as it was. Fees and fraud have been a part of urban society since urban society was invented during babylonian times.

Some things that have changed:

You can walk into pretty much any standing structure, drink straight from the tap, and not die a horrible death from bacterial infection.

Fast food is historically the most nutrition per-weight per-dollar that's ever existed.

There's a cure/vaccine for most diseases and conditions. Yes some companies are witholding preventative treatments in favor of money. On the same hand, having categorized continuous treatment for most existing conditions is a marvel of science.

It your only complaint is "People are rude and why does stuff cost money?" then I recommend indentured servitude as an alternative.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

Do you have some data that says this is off base besides some general Wikipedia concept? The OP reported direct observations.

>Seems like everything is subscription model and you have to pay N times to access something thats only worth 1-3x . Eg: I Netflix for a couple hours a month. At the price for 4k access I can almost go out to a theatre. Video games are all trending to subscription models. I just learned the other day that the PS4 games I got with my subcription to PSN all are locked because I stopped subscribing (nearly 50 games) . So I paid them like $125 for access to these games for 24 months, and now I cannot play any of them? At least I still own NES/SNES/N64 Game cartridges that will never lock me out

This one is wrong. If this were the SNES era to play 50 games the best you could do is rent for $3 to play for a couple nights. That's $150 (more like $300 in today's dollars) which is more than they paid for unlimited access to the games. To match that they'd have not much choice other than retail for $50 a pop, $2,500 for all of them, or $5,000 in today's dollars. Used for maybe half that with effort.

HBO was more expensive when it launched in the 80s and that doesn't count the base cable subscription fee. I pay much less for the 2-3 streaming services that I use than my parents paid for cable when I was growing up. That alone is undeniably better. Plus you can do things like buy any Disney DVD used for $2 pop plus a flat $3 shipping on ebay. No way that happens in the VCR days. Not to mention that used DVD players are practically free vs a couple hundred for a vcr player.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#445
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A lot of this is related to inequality, value of labour detaching from wealth, and the increasing unaffordability of life. The material conditions of regular people are continuously getting worse as more and more of their income is stripped away by rent seeking oligopolies, mainly increasing housing costs but depending on your jurisdiction all sorts of other costs (eg. cable and mobile phone costs an issue in some pl…

> A lot of this is related to inequality, value of labour detaching from wealth, and the increasing unaffordability of life. Inequality is declining by every measurable metric in the United States. Edit: To answer the folk naysaying with their ten second Google searches, the income inequality rate has declined between 2007 and 2019(1), helped by a strong wage recovery in the late 2010s. The share of wealth held by th…

> Inequality is declining by every measurable metric in the United States.

Economist Thomas Piketty would like to have a word. The top 1% takes more of the US national income than the entire bottom half and their share is increasing. Income growth in the bottom 20% is negative.[0] Although perhaps we have different definitions of inequality. If the rings of the ladder are pulling apart in this fashion I’m going to take that as evidence of increasing inequality.

[0] Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez, and Gabriel Zucman (2018): _Distributional National Accounts: Methods and Estimates for the United States_, Quarterly Journal of Economics 2, 2018, Vol. 133, S. 553-609.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#446
I understand the strong temptation to think like this. One very specific thing that I am sure has declined is journalism. The ad-supported model that was basically a patronage to writer-artist-philosophers is dead. As a result, I think we have very low quality information about what our world is like today, and much of what’s written is paid content or panicked clickbait. That means a whole lot of people get told every day that the world is burning.

But if you shut off the screens, I think you will find we live in a world that’s safer, richer, and more just than at any other point in history.

Personally, my main concerns are geopolitical and environmental. Either could knock us off this relatively great pedestal we sit on. To respond to that belief, I have aimed my career at contributing solutions.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#447
I believe you are right to sense a change in our zeitgeist (each era has one). In this case I think it is caused by a feeling of impending doom, perhaps mainly because the prospect of nuclear war has bubbled up (again) lately. This particular doomsday prospect has the curious property that we block it out from our minds as too horrible to even think possible, and anyway nothing we can do to prevent. In some this creates a general sense of gloom, in others it creates a hedonistic urgency, because "après moi, le déluge", in yet some a feeling of general and roaming anger.

My two cents

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#448

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A society is made up of people. The way people act, dress, talk, or do anything else has a pretty direct impact on other people in that society. Unless your definition of society is an extremely disconnected one, comprised of alienated individuals that have no interaction with each other, yes, it does affect other people.

Maybe I have something to learn, but what load-bearing social foundation would public pajama-wearing endanger?

Taking care of the most basic forms of aesthetics is a form of respect and care towards others.

There's a healthy balance between following some strict victorian dress code and wearing a pajama. It's not about the colors or shape, it's about the message it sends: "I don't bother to dress up"

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#449

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This reminds of a classic Late Night with Conan O'Brien episode when Louis C.K. was the guest. He is very right. We adopt to the new normal so fast. We need more people feeling gratitude. It is tough since modernity is focused on consumption.

Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFB7q89_3U

The few minutes before the clip starts were great too, but sadly I've never been able to find them since I first watched them.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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>being a grown-ass adult in pajamas out in public I'm with you about all the other things but people wearing whatever clothes they want to affects you in literally no way shape or form.

Dress how you want in your own house. The public space isn't yours and you don't have a right to dress indecently in the public space. Turns out, some of us want to live in a society that takes itself seriously and gives a shit. Walking around in your Cookie Monster PJs just doesn't cut it. THIS mindset is what I think is the root of all the other listed problems. Somehow freedom has come to mean "I can do whatever I…

Do you really have an issue with people wearing what they want?

Where do you draw the line? And who decides when things are turning socially acceptable? Are young people ment to wear the same attire as their parents because that is what I'd already socially acceptable?

I wear stupid things in public because I barely care for anything than comfort. I never thought that could bother someone

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