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Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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I'm not in the USA so I'm not sure how the W2s and SSNs are tied to job/healthcare/401k etc, but how does this double timing work? Won't the Tax office/Finanzamt (IRS) know about this?

It’s not illegal to have two jobs.

It is likely a breach of contract at both jobs, though. All contracts I’ve signed in the past include a clause that say “this is your one and only primary job and you hold no others”.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Passing a reference is semantically different from passing by reference (the latter being a functionality of the language); doing the former (behind the scenes) doesn't imply that the language supports the latter (if one wants to be rigorous, not even C supports pass by reference). The canonical example is a function that swaps the variables passed to a function: a, b = 10, 20 swap_fn(&a, &b) a == 20 # true Since the…

In python it actually depends on the data type! Python 3.10.8 (main, Oct 13 2022, 09:48:40) [Clang 14.0.0 (clang-1400.0.29.102)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> def f(d): ... d['foo'] = 'bar' ... >>> a = {} >>> f(a) >>> a {'foo': 'bar'}

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Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Not laid off, but my 2c, from Euroregion.

Demographics is the killer force, basically with a MINT background, you can find a job almost instantly. You may not earn a top salary, but you'll earn enough to get by well.

Given Europe is in the worst crisis since WW2, I'd say job market is fine.

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It’s not illegal to have two jobs.

Why do so many people think this? Conditioning via plutocracy?

I am not in the US but where I am from the contract usually says you are not allowed to work for another employer unless approved by your current employee. All the stories of overemployed get me kinda envious because I would never dare to try it myself.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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post #398

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In python it actually depends on the data type! Python 3.10.8 (main, Oct 13 2022, 09:48:40) [Clang 14.0.0 (clang-1400.0.29.102)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> def f(d): ... d['foo'] = 'bar' ... >>> a = {} >>> f(a) >>> a {'foo': 'bar'}

My understanding of what's going on with python is it passes by reference (hence what your code does), but if the data type is immutable any modification results in a new instance being created in the scope of the function, and the object passed in is not modified. Which mostly looks like pass-by-value behaviour. I guess my understanding could be technically wrong in some way, but it seems to reflect what happens.

The issue is that Python passes references by value, so you cannot overwrite what the arguments of a function reference from the perspective of the caller. However, if you pass something like a dictionary or a class the function gets a copy of the reference and can use it to update the members of what was passed. Java operates on the same principle, although there may be some edge cases I'm not aware of where the two differ.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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post #387

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Ageism is often conflated with higher compensation expectations.

While it's certainly very real, it's conflated with a lot of things: compensation expectations, specialization, potentially not up on current trends, maybe set in ways, etc.

I think a big one is there just being fewer old programmers so you don't see them as much so you think there's ageism. But the market has grown a ton over the past 10-20 years.

None of my friends in their 40s have trouble getting jobs. This includes software jobs that tend to skew young, such as game dev and startups.

I wouldn't doubt it exists, but anecdotally it doesn't seem to be such a huge problem that you can't continue coding until a standard retirement age.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Didn't get laid off but resigned around a month ago after a long stretch of non-stop work since I was basically a kid (worked through college, university, and straight after O_o). Basically for a little break and to focus on doing some real intense OSS. Been a wild, challenging, and rewarding 1.5 months so far. Applied to a couple places that were working on some interesting things, some even related to my own OSS, r…

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Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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No sorry, you are incorrect and you can verify the correct answer on Wikipedia or any technical book on this subject. For example the Java Language Specification states in section 8.4.1 that Java is pass by value: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/jls-8.html... ECMAScript's Language Specification also states in section 10.6 that it uses pass by value semantics, although it's much more formal about the…

I said they pass objects by reference , which is true. Technically, yes, Java is pass by value. However, objects are not passed by value. The value you are passing is a reference (pointer) to that object. If this were not the case, you would not be able to see modifications to method parameters reflected in the caller because you're modifying a copy. You are not modifying a copy.

I think you are deeply confused about this topic and should not be making judgements about other people. Instead of making an honest attempt to understand the difference between pass by value and pass by reference, you are trying to mince words to save face and even your attempt to mince words is incorrect.

While I likely can not convince you further that you are in error, especially since you're now trying to double down on this, for others reading this who have a genuine desire to understand this topic, please understand that Java, JavaScript and Python do not pass by reference, but instead pass by value and refrain from attempting to redefine technical terminology.

The references I cite are quite authoritative and unambiguous on this topic.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Interviewed with about 28 companies for almost 3 months, without a single offer! I was starting to get really worried about money and burned out from interviewing. In the past I've never interviewed with more than 2 or 3 before getting an offer I now this is incredibly privileged. I'm not humble-bragging, just observing the change in the market. As things usually turn out, during the last week of the 3-month search I…

Yikes, 28 companies is something else. I had a somewhat similar experience in the last downturn in 2010 - first of all I couldn't even get an interview for like 3 months, then in the last 3 months of my garden leave I interviewed at about 8 places before getting a visa/offer. This was despite having a solid CV. It was something else, and incredibly distressing. You have my sympathies - I'm pretty sure tech interviewing over the years has traumatized me.
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