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Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#421

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Any decent VPS provider (including DigitalOcean, unless they’ve changed anything) definitely doesn’t do this.

Maybe you're right, I may be mistaken. Perhaps I should migrate to DO.

Actually, I should qualify this.

If you use a PaaS (platform as a service, e.g. Heroku, DO App Platform, AWS EB), they might assume your app to be stateless and do things like restart it at will.

If you use a VPS (virtual private server, e.g. DO Droplet, AWS EC2), this certainly shouldn’t happen, but of course it requires some Linux skills to maintain your VPS.

So it’s basically a trade-off between engineering your app to fit a PaaS or hand-managing your VMs (though the latter is usually the cheaper option).

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#422

This is old, but my most pointless project: The CEO wanted a screen in every hall that showed the company "EnGUAGEment meter". Users would have to go to the app, choose from 10 or so canned messages like "Feeling productive", "Ready to conquer the day", and other such HR speak the CEO (or rather the HR committee he put on the important business of picking the list) felt was motivational. This would update a page that…

For me, more money == more motivation, nothing else

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#423

I once worked for a VP who needed to sunset an old internal tool that people were unwilling to part with, so he asked me to make it suck intentionally. Added random sleeps to slow down performance. Random alert messages about fake errors. It was weird. EDIT: Since this is getting some votes I'll add some more details. He would also come by to tell me how happy he was about all the complaints he was getting about it.

I don’t mean to be the morality police, but that seems illegal.

What laws do you think making a bad tool violates?

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#424

I built the best site out there for playing magic the gathering online. It's way better than any other available option. I've never shared it with the magic community because I think wizards of the coast would just send me a cease and desist, so three years of work is just sitting idle. I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

Please release it anonymously. I beg you

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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I built the best site out there for playing magic the gathering online. It's way better than any other available option. I've never shared it with the magic community because I think wizards of the coast would just send me a cease and desist, so three years of work is just sitting idle. I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

Also, how come Wizards don't go after Cockatrice, but would go after your site?

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK listen up dude. > I built the best site out there for playing magic the gathering online. No you didn't! You built the best site out there for playing trading card games . It just so happens that it's very easy to point to your own local card/rule sets, share them with peers, and play together online. And if the cards/rules being used by the clients happen to be MTG cards/rules, oh well! That's out of your hands.…

The problem as I see it is loading the card data and imagery. I use scryfall for this, and it's heavily integrated into the site in several ways. I don't see how I can get around that. My site is coded specifically to work with their API. I can't really make it so you can "swap it out" for a different game's API.

Cockatrice also loads card images and card text likely from the same source

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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All the time.

A former employer had a client who had us re-write the same project 5 times. We kept each project repo backed up, because we were able to re-use pieces when the next re-write rolled around. Eventually they scrapped the project. The client printed money and wiped their ass with it like it was nothing. A lot of stress went into it for nothing. The project itself was a horror story. Maybe someday I'll write a blog about it.

Then there's the one where someone high up wouldn't pay ten grand for a license, so he paid a senior dev to recreate the same feature set. Took this dev over a year, so over $100k+ for a amateur (by comparison) offshoot that is maybe as reliable? Instead of just buying a license for 10 grand (I am shifting the amounts on purpose, it may have been higher ;).

Then there was the project where they hired a ton of Jr devs except like four (30+ devs) and charged senior rates for all of them. They refused to hire actual seniors, questionable hiring practices all around. The front-end folks were doing hacks that give me nightmares, because they had to (proprietary front-end framework). When the app hit the app store I saw all the negative reviews for it and was not surprised.

Then there was the project I was what I call full-stack developer plus. It involved a web front-end (I worked on the back-end, and the front-end) to a daemon (I worked on this as well) and a debian package, as well as some external APIs. It also involved mDNS / Avahi. The idea was we would install this package on a OS we customized, then we would know we could run tests on this OS. I touched every major piece of that project, and was holding the weight of the other two developers because one was a junior, the other was some weird data science guy who wrote some of the worst code we ever saw.

Edit: I forgot one key piece, I also wrote shell scripts to automate installing and provisioning this OS on Virtual Box instances, which would also check the network for this VM to be online and then install my Debian package.

It also had noVNC (a web based VNC client) so we could remotely see these systems with ease.

We had this thing running like a train by the time I was at my peak with the project, and one QA guy said one thing wasn't working, and the manager said we'll stop using it until its fixed. That was the death of that project. I also kind of left the company after all the burn out of basically carrying too much weight. It was one of my worst projects I worked on because of all the weight in my shoulders, but it was also one of the most fascinating ones.

Then there are more recent examples I dare not utter since it was within the last year at my former employer (I'm looking for work HN ;).

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

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Worse than useless -- net negative -- everything related to Iraq/Afghanistan. I didn't go over there because I thought it was a good idea (nation building in either place is dumb, and any conflict at all in Iraq was dumb), and while individual projects sometimes made things locally better (like, speeding up network connectivity on a specific base), it was overall a dumb project which made things worse because it was…

We built the Taliban a whole lot of nice infrastructure. Maybe they'll be able to use it, probably not though.

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#429

Oh I thought this was gonna be that like the entire product / company / idea was useless, not just like a small number of weeks' worth of work. I've probably created a hundred or more proofs of concept for things that turned out to be a bad idea. Say these averaged out to a week or so of work each, and that's about two full years of useless work. And that's ok! Most stuff you work on will get thrown away before you l…

> and the rest will get thrown away not long after that. I'm still working on a project that was mainly written by someone who left the company right before I joined – ten years ago.

Well clearly you should have thrown that away not long after they left! :)

Re: Ask HN: What is the most useless project you have worked on?

#430

I built the best site out there for playing magic the gathering online. It's way better than any other available option. I've never shared it with the magic community because I think wizards of the coast would just send me a cease and desist, so three years of work is just sitting idle. I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

Also, how come Wizards don't go after Cockatrice, but would go after your site?

They did go after Cockatrice. The original developer had to step away. It's unclear what the current situation is with whoever stepped up to take it over.
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