The only way it works for me under Mac OS, is through a private window at Microsoft Edge. If I try to connect any other way, I either fail to connect or connect to the wrong workspace.
Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does a Teams power user look like?
I’m not referring to Teams power users, but PC power users in general. You know, people that actually care about snappy performance, consistent behavior and whatnot. Working with the PC instead of against it. Knowing why . My experience is that even many of my developer colleagues are not power users. They happily rebuild thrice in Visual Studio without even questioning the need for that. They perform strange rituals…
Ok that's fair. My biggest annoyances with Teams are slow startup and a bizarre implementation of copy and paste.
But in general it pretty much stays out of the way, and has enabled us to fairly seamlessly transition the org to WFH.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#423Maybe many people in the thread are using Teams on Mac/Linux, because for me I haven't had a crash in like, ever. I don't have any issue with the UI, but then I don't know any better and I've used Teams enough these last 3 years that I know its idiosyncrasies.
Search is still beyond retarded, though.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you also start/stop the modem on your phone whenever you need it? For the majority of people it makes sense to have a comms app always running as they come to expect that from the smartphones. Granted, there should be an easy way to configure this behavior for advanced users.
Although a smartphone is a computer (and a pretty powerful one while we are at it), I see it as a communication device. It's main purpose for me is to chat and talk with other people, so I want the modem working as much as it can, or I could miss a call from my granma. Even though I can watch videos (and you could say broadcasting/streaming is a form of communication, just a simplex one) or browse the Web[0], I ident…
How do you handle incoming calls if you’re not running?
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#425My 2 cents of venting on this sorry excuse of software - Backtick formatting in a chat post only works after typing the closing backtick, deleting it, re-typing it - Text copied from a conversation is polluted with names and time stamps. "I really want this feature" said nobody ever - The mute/unmute button is hard to find, I don't think I've ever attended a Teams meeting without someone struggling with this. Teams s…
Something I discovered after switching to Windows: MS Teams eats the ctrl+shift+S shortcut while it's in the background, so I cannot use it anymore in other applications. It literally makes other apps stop working properly. Sigh.
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#426And don't forget about multi-tenant support.
If you have multiple accounts or your account has access to multiple tenants, you can only really work in one of them at a time. You have to log out and log in to each of them. Totally unusable.
Slack got this well from day zero. I can't understand how 6 years later MS Teams still doesn't support well this simple and common scenario.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#427It's the iPhone effect: If you use Teams, and something goes wrong, everybody is patient and sympathetic. If you use something else, then it's your fault for being "weird" or "cheap." In my case, my computer came from IT, pre-loaded with Teams, and it runs nearly flawlessly. But I've noticed something else about computers and software. You can have two people with similar jobs, similar computers, similar software, et…
> If you use Teams, and something goes wrong, everybody is patient and sympathetic. If you use something else, then it's your fault for being "weird" or "cheap."
Odd. I feel that people are sympathetic because everyone knows Teams is weird and cheap.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#428Long ago Microsoft had MSN Messenger, which was one of the leading messaging apps. It worked well, and many 'normal' users were using it. Then Microsoft dissolved the team behind it and screwed up the product so bad with bloatware and ads that everyone moved to WhatsApp (except in the US where people went back to texting). Then Microsoft came out with Communicator, renamed it to Lync, which was a corporate messenger/…
Text communcation with Lync was the same as MSN Messenger, super basic. No chat history, no channels. I wouldn't say it's any better than Teams.
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#429My personal take is, that teams is bloated, so you end up buying a higher spec pc.
My guesstimate falls on the surface line (as i have a surfacebook myself) and suddenly, with 16gb of ram everything is not -so bad- again :D
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#430On linux, Microsoft teams will change your system sound settings to match its preference. This includes Bluetooth headphones no longer being available to the system. Then, it decides the system settings are beneath it and will only use its own device settings. And it will decide now that your fancy Bluetooth headset is gone, there is also no need for that crappy internal microphone either, so enjoy not having any mic…
Install Microsoft Edge for Linux and use the web version through that. Really, it's a great solution. I've done it for a while. I don't use edge for anything else but it runs teams.microsoft.com great
Before installing Edge I checked out the maintainer scripts bundled into its deb.
As a result I have vowed it will never sully any machine I am responsible for maintaining.