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Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

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Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#421
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With my girlfriend and daughter I live in Thailand (Thai countryside) and we have a budget of about 50.000 THB per month, or about 1.300 USD. We own our house, so we don't pay rent and we don't have any loans. This budget doesn't include costs for health insurance, which I pay separately. I think a single guy could live on quite a bit less, but has to pay some rent. For about 250-300 USD per month you can get a decen…

Can I ask how old your daughter is? Doing the nomad thing in cheaper, less developed countries seems a lot tougher to manage with kids, and even more so in the countryside. Gotta think about schools, pediatricians, dentists, finding play-mates for them, kid-friendly things to do, and so on. I'd be curious to hear about how you balance all that.

> Can I ask how old your daughter is? Doing the nomad thing in cheaper, less developed countries seems a lot tougher to manage with kids, and even more so in the countryside. Gotta think about schools, pediatricians, dentists, finding play-mates for them, kid-friendly things to do, and so on. I'd be curious to hear about how you balance all that.

Our daughter is 4.5 years old now. Due to COVID the schools have been closed for the last month or so, but should be open again starting September. My daughter is half foreigner, half Thai and goes to a Thai private school in the area. Don't expect too much of these private schools on the country side, but it should beat government education (which is pretty much free). For the private school we pay about 700 USD per year.

I work from home and since our daughter has been home a lot lately, I've resorted to working during the nights when my daughter is asleep. I tend to sleep from the morning to the afternoon. From the afternoon until the evening I spend at least a few hours every day with my daughter, playing LEGO, looking the iPad together, drawing, etc...

She has a niece nearby that visits almost every day and is just a couple of years older. In daytime she often plays with her niece. We also have a neighbour with a son of about equal age as our daughter and sometimes they play together.

There's not too much kid friendly stuff around here I guess, but my girlfriend does occasionally take our daughter to a playground nearby, at a government school. There's a soccer field and such for children to play on.

I believe even here on the country side there's plenty of good dentists, but I have to admit I haven't tried any dentist here myself. Usually when I visit The Netherlands, once or twice a year, I visit my own dentist. Our daughter hasn't visited the dentist yet and my girlfriend doesn't either (she just takes good care of her teeth).

If our daughter is sick, usually we first visit the clinic of the doctor that delivered our daughter in the hospital (many doctors here in Thailand have their own clinic that they work at after finishing their work hours at the hospital). If there's a bigger problem, we drive to Chiang Mai (about 2-3 hours drive) to visit the private Ram hospital which offers better care. We had to visit the hospital in Chiang Mai two times in the past and stay there for a few days.

In the future I'd like to move again to a coastal area, perhaps Pattaya, perhaps Hua Hin, perhaps some other place. In those areas there's more stuff for kids to do, for example there's often an entertainment area for children in the larger shopping malls like Central, BluPort, etc... Also at these coastal areas there's entertainment like amusement parks, zoos, beaches, etc... Also there's better quality (but much more expensive) education available, like international schools.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#422
I had been paying a little over $1,000 USD per month in Tomsk, Russia.

I had about 125 square meters in the center of the city, right across from the main university campus, 600/600Mbps unmetered symmetrical fiber with a static ipv4 address ($10 a month from domru), unlimited 4g (a little over $10 from megafon), ordered delivery for literally every meal, and used taxi apps for all my travel.

The bureaucracy and paperwork for existing is probably a fair bit more than what you’d be used to in the US - e.g., needing to register your residence every time you go to a hotel, go back to your apartment, etc. But, the process for actually getting stuff done, like getting an apartment or getting bank account, is actually pretty simple and something you can navigate easily on your own or with any Russian speaking friend.

Healthcare was good too. I had a good experience at the state run hospitals when I, unfortunately, needed surgery; patient staff, quality work, and I didn’t even carry my wallet in and walked out paying nothing. Similarly, ambulances were another painless experience, not even asking for my insurance.

FWIW: I think the typical “nomad” is often quite a bit more right-wing and concerned about taxes and money than I am (don't take offense, just an observation!). The city is fairly liberal for Russia, it’s young, has a nice academic scene, etc. I’m not sure I’d stay forever, but I don’t regret the years I spent there. It was a lot of fun, people were nice, the experiences were wild, and university was great.

Downsides:

- Access to foreign products, electronics, or even things as simple as English books can be lacking.

- There's nothing anywhere near as convenient as Amazon, so be prepared for visits to actual stores when you need a cable or something and have fun navigating aliexpress, avito, and similar.

- Racism is still a thing and even though actually getting my apartment was easy, finding a landlord willing to rent to an "Omar" was a lot harder ("for slavs only" is an unfortunately common thing in realty listings). Similarly, my Chinese friends experienced a fair bit of serious discrimination when the pandemic first began. If you're light-skinned and have a white-sounding name, I don't imagine you'll face any trouble, though.

- Although Tomsk is significantly more liberal than many other areas, and I don't think anything particularly terrible would happen, it's probably not got the most vibrant of LGBT atmospheres on the planet.

- Weather is just brutal. From the windchill of -51 I experienced to the 30+ summers.

- Get an apartment with a boiler. Most people use city-provided hot water for showers, but that means every summer, you'll lose your hot water for a week or so while they do they annual maintenance otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#424

I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. My monthly living expenses (adjusted from IDR to USD on current rate) 1. Apartment rent, 6 months contract at $1300 + $200 deposit, pay upfront, thus $250 monthly. It is a small apartment 1 common area, 2 tiny bedroom, and tiny balcony 2. Utilities, varying from $30 to $50, mine has 2 AC running almost 24/7, a PC with average 200 to 300 watt power draw, and 5 led light bulbs 3. Meals, 3…

Thanks for your response.

The rat race can wait , I think 6 months focused on game dev will get my game to where I need it to be. And if not, at least I had some fun.

Any big cultural shocks.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#426
post #298
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I live in Korea. Some months my total expenses are as low as $400 while living comfortably. If I spent $1000 in a month, I spent a lot of money. I'd say my average monthly living expenses are $600-$800. My main expenses are food/entertainment, and I eat out a lot (50% of meals). Housing is probably the biggest living expense. I take advantage of Korea's interesting rental system called Cheonsae: Basically, if you put…

If property returns around 5% per year, lending $90k for a stay would be around $4.5k per year and represent perhaps a $375 monthly apartment. Given that you are not even paying fully for the apartment, this makes it possibly even more valuable. This can be considered quite decent given that there is more or less no risk involved. An index fund may generate higher returns maybe even 7% but given the low risk the syst…

Also as someone pointed out: money "earned" by not paying rent is untaxed.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#427
post #424

I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. My monthly living expenses (adjusted from IDR to USD on current rate) 1. Apartment rent, 6 months contract at $1300 + $200 deposit, pay upfront, thus $250 monthly. It is a small apartment 1 common area, 2 tiny bedroom, and tiny balcony 2. Utilities, varying from $30 to $50, mine has 2 AC running almost 24/7, a PC with average 200 to 300 watt power draw, and 5 led light bulbs 3. Meals, 3…

Thanks for your response. The rat race can wait , I think 6 months focused on game dev will get my game to where I need it to be. And if not, at least I had some fun. Any big cultural shocks.

Can't say much about culture shocks, Indonesian myself, but from my european friend who live in Jakarta for almost a year now said "people just late everywhere"

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#428
post #387
post #11

I live in Korea. Some months my total expenses are as low as $400 while living comfortably. If I spent $1000 in a month, I spent a lot of money. I'd say my average monthly living expenses are $600-$800. My main expenses are food/entertainment, and I eat out a lot (50% of meals). Housing is probably the biggest living expense. I take advantage of Korea's interesting rental system called Cheonsae: Basically, if you put…

I thought most landlords won't even take those deposit based deals from foreigners? If I was going to live in a Major city anywhere,Seoul would be in the top 2 along with Tokyo

Yeah, it may be harder if you're a foreigner. I'm a foreigner and I managed to do it, though. If you have the cash I don't think landlords would care.

For me, the biggest hurdle was saving up the deposit. Koreans have easy access to cheonsae loans at 2-4% interest rates. It's very difficult for foreigners to get a loan in Korea.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#429
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It becomes a too-big-to-fail system, with the government stepping in as needed (implicit subsidy).

How even would the government step in with it being landlord to landlord like that though? It's not centralized in any way.

Buying the assets for enough to cover the landlord's debts. then liquidate the assets for market value. The government could even just hold the assets themselves.

Re: Ask HN: Where can I live off 1k USD per month?

#430
Colombia. Both in Bogotá and Medellin you will be able to live comfortably and the internet is pretty good in those 2 cities. I pay USD 387 for a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom apartment relatively near the city center in Bogotá. Food is quite affordable a very good restaurant with entry, main course and a glass of wine would be less than 15. A big mac costs less than 5.

The big advantage is the plummeting of the Colombian peso in comparison to the US Dollar. 1k USD is almost 4x the minimum wage, and most people make less than the minimum wage and survive so 1k USD for one person puts you in a strong upper middle class actually.

The only caveat is that most people have poor English, so some Spanish is a must. Maybe in Medellin could be different since there is a huge number of expats there, but in Bogotá at least, most people won't speak English.

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