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At the very least you'd end up being sued for defamation or whatnot by DOW for the next century or two. DOW is not a company you want to tango with.

Its fully possible to tip a journalist or regulator these fays with a level of anonymity these days.

I can fully imagine not wanting to run the risk regardless however.

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I worked on a penny-bidding site. These guys "auctioned" items like PlayStation, tvs, cars to the user who placed the final bid on an item after 60 seconds of no further bids. Each bid would increase the final price by 1 pence/cent, but each bid would cost 50 pence/cents. You could "win" a $20,000 car for $500.37 and the house would have taken 50,037*50 cents. It might be okay if that was it -- but I was asked to cod…

A few years back I was house hunting with my wife. We found a lovely house that was a short sale, and put in a bid. Holy crap, that process was all kinds of frustrating and drawn out. About 3 months after we placed the offer, the bank put the house up for auction on another site, to try and drum up more offered. On the auction day, I checked in routinely no one was bidding. All was looking great. About three hours be…

Good on you guys for not increasing your bid!

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>TBH anyone's free to do whatever they want on their website That's where you're wrong, kiddo. There's laws now.

No there aren't, none relevant to this conversation at least.

Check out the Americans with Disabilities Act.

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I worked on a penny-bidding site. These guys "auctioned" items like PlayStation, tvs, cars to the user who placed the final bid on an item after 60 seconds of no further bids. Each bid would increase the final price by 1 pence/cent, but each bid would cost 50 pence/cents. You could "win" a $20,000 car for $500.37 and the house would have taken 50,037*50 cents. It might be okay if that was it -- but I was asked to cod…

I worked on a system like that but it was run by a charity so whilst unethical at least somebody wasn't profiting from it.

If it's unethical, it's unethical. Does it really matter if a company is profiting off of it or not?

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post #71

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> Yes it's wrong, but what do I know? I just design electronic circuits. This outlook, along with "well if I don't do it someone else will anyway", is why tech workers are quickly becoming the new bankers in the view of the public.

> This outlook, along with "well if I don't do it someone else will anyway", is why tech workers are quickly becoming the new bankers in the view of the public. Which really annoys me, because while moral indifference of some tech workers is wrong, there are still the business guys actually giving the immoral orders . Those are conveniently forgotten in the new narrative.

At what level of technical skill/background does a business guy become a tech guy?

People are people and this "oh the business guys are the bad ones, not poor little programmer making $200k/yr implementing business guy's idea" mindset is odd.

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post #189

Worked for a company that was contracted by DOW to make an app promoting some extremely toxic agrochemicals, such as Forefront. They talked about this being so poisonious that if animals eat grass sprayed with it, then crops grown with their manure will be unsuitable for human consumption. Was also asked to fake ("round up") the calculations of how much money you'd save if by those chemicals. Read up a bit about DOW…

How does not eating animal products help with your guilty conscience in this situation?

It may help with their conscience but it has no positive impact whatsoever.

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I created software that was used by call center agents to bid on “bathroom” break time slots and kept track of who was on break and actively punished those who didn’t follow the rules. It rewarded those that had higher performance and who took less breaks with higher priority. If an agent didn’t come back from their break a security guard would automatically be dispatched to find them. For the same company I also mad…

So basically it was inevitable that everyone who was hired would be fired by your robot?

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I worked for a company, which had insiders at Google steal various data to improve their SEO. I don't know the details, but I think it may have involved some cute girls. I built systems to work with the stolen data to improve their SEO. They are one of the most popular websites on the internet.

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In my first job out of college i worked at a big consulting company on a project at a company that used interwoven teamsite cms. Teamsite was a cms written in Perl, JavaScript, and Java with lots of xml sprinkled in. It was a horrible system. I blogged about it on my personal blog. All the posts were about how to solve issues I had using it. This was before stack overflow. After I had about 10 such posts I wrote a po…

What was your experience like in Consulting?

Re: Ask HN: What is the most unethical thing you've done as a programmer?

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post #95

I worked on a penny-bidding site. These guys "auctioned" items like PlayStation, tvs, cars to the user who placed the final bid on an item after 60 seconds of no further bids. Each bid would increase the final price by 1 pence/cent, but each bid would cost 50 pence/cents. You could "win" a $20,000 car for $500.37 and the house would have taken 50,037*50 cents. It might be okay if that was it -- but I was asked to cod…

I think it's more often referred to as a Dollar auction[0] - an example where a series of rational decisions leads to irrational behaviour. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction

I saw an ad for something like that a while ago, but realized that you couldn't sell an ipad for $0.56 if you weren't getting the full retail plus a margin from somewhere. Thankfully I never got into it.
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