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Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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start getting these gigs and boom, now you're a bonafide digital transformation consulting company

sounds awesome, have been working on several such project as well. would be great to share experiences

I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek because "digital transformation" has become an overused marketing term. But I think the core of it is valid -- a company has an inefficient process due to lack of technical expertise or whatever and you help them fix it.

There's multiple parts to this field of work: networking to find leads, doing discovery to understand a potential client's problem, formulating a technical solution, creating/negotiating contracts, and implementing the solution. My experience in this area was at a company that was large enough so that these pieces were split into different roles within our organization, and I was mostly on the tech/solution implementation side.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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My startup is working on solutions to crop failure scenarios such as from a nuclear war. Unfortunately we calculate there are probable outcomes where the only reasonable course of action is for one selected group to actually consume parts of the population in order to survive a nuclear winter. And so we’re building an automated system to take a newly deceased human being and create as many wholesome and nutritious me…

My uninformed take for what it's worth.

Let's assume your projections are right and cannibalism is unavoidable like you say. You will never sell any of this technology. There is no need for it until there is a nuclear winter, so nobody will buy before it happens. After it happens nobody will buy anything. The only thing that could invest in something like this is government, but no government will commit political suicide by funding machine-assisted cannibalism.

Sounds like the same technology could be used to kill animals in a more ethical way. Perhaps you could market it as an ethical cow killing machine or something? Then you might even be able to continue secretly pursuing the cannibalism tech agenda, making sure the cow-killers can be easily repurposed into man-killers.

Anyways it sounds like you are an aspiring Bond villain, so I wish you good luck fighting spies and superheroes. When you inevitably trap one in one of these capsules don't turn around until they are 100% dead! Thats how they get you!

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Educational games. Hear me out. The way we teach us basically how we did it 500 years ago. This is stupid, boring and not scalable. We dont have enough teachers, attention span is short, education is costly. So we need something that scales, is fun and involves all types of media plus gamifies education. Think Skyrim or GTA meets MS Encarta

Here is a very relevant podcast episode on what you are talking about. I enjoyed listening to this one a lot and am a fan of the podcast in general.

https://deepfuture.tech/podcast/video-games-optimized-learni...

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Yes, architecture and design is an art form, the medium in which you work influences the design process and the output you create. I’m not saying all architects and designers should return to the drafting table, but it is a shame that the knowledge of how to work like that is disappearing from the workplace. Also, not everything always needs to be “efficient”, what’s wrong with working slowly if you can then create a…

How does the slower process lead to a superior result, exactly? Are there designs that modern CAD systems can't achieve that the older process could? If so, perhaps it would be more practical to focus on closing that gap by improving our modern tooling.

I’m struggling with this thread.

I’m not sure what’s superior in the old approach.

You’re able to perform much more robust and detailed calculations using computers compared to hand. You’re able to iterate more rapidly. The only thing I can think of is that the designer or engineer has more time to ruminate on their design. Or there is no artistry in a computer generated print.

It’s probably the bias in my training (mechanical engineering tech and not architecture or industrial design) and what I’m trying to accomplish through drafting, but I don’t get this romanticism for hand drafting.

My program, in the mid-2010s, had 13 weeks of hand drafting. The program still does that in the 2020s. My program emphasized sketching and drafting as a core component of the engineering design process. So hand drafting is still taught, and there may be sampling bias at play in the other comments. Or my hand drafting isn’t “real hand drafting.”

Sketching allows you to iterate through different designs early on. You then move into the detailed design which results in the manufacturing specs. For example, hole sizing and location, material thickness. We absolutely did all of these calculations by hand in our courses, so you need to be able to draw something out. You’d simplify and not worry about completely accurate proportions, though.

I guess before the rise of CAD systems, you’d hand over a bunch of rough design papers with the final dimensions for a drafter to prepare the final print.

However, with computers we now do the detailed design through computer aided engineering (CAE) software. This requires a 3D model of what you’re building. You run the simulation and find out that the thickness of the material isn’t suitable, so you change the thickness in the model and re-run the simulation.

This CAE process gives the engineer the 2D print for “free.” All the information needed to create the 2D print are embedded in the 3D model. You just pick which projections you want in 2D and you specify the dimensions and tolerance. Now that’s done and there is no need to draft it by hand.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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sounds awesome, have been working on several such project as well. would be great to share experiences

I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek because "digital transformation" has become an overused marketing term. But I think the core of it is valid -- a company has an inefficient process due to lack of technical expertise or whatever and you help them fix it. There's multiple parts to this field of work: networking to find leads, doing discovery to understand a potential client's problem, formulating a technical solution,…

Interesting, that is my experience at Pfizer as well, where I lead projects end-to-end, from problem discovery to solution deployment and I pretty much did everything, from talking to coding

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Rail already has a tremendous labour advantage over trucking. The principle limitations seem to be net transit speed (freight moves on average at or below 30 mph net, and peaks at 79 mph in the US) and the sheer delay and confusion in arranging shipments. Freight's worked well for high-volume bulk commodities (coal, grain, tanker cars). Intermodal ("piggyback" or containerised cargo) works quite well, but still sees…

On the topic of chokepoints and tradeoffs, the question of upgrading freight lines around Chicago is pretty fascinating.

Chicago (or more accurately, Lake Michegan) is a pretty massive transportation disruptor generally.

Highway trucking as I-90, I-94, and I-80 converge is hellacious.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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post #77

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Duolingo is doing it amazingly to learn a new language.

I speak 3 languages, attempted to learn the 4th one (German) on Duolingo and I find it very ineffective. I recall having trouble learning English back in high school and then having a breakthrough. The breakthrough was, I figured out how to think in English when trying to debug my errors with the teacher who actually have lived in the USA. Once it clicked, I no longer had to memorise things but predict instead. My En…

This heavily depends on a course, and courses are different between pairs of languages.

E.g. learning Spanish from English on Duolingo is very natural, the course is built the way a baby learns a language, by practice and suggestion, with few small bits of grammar info strewn along the way. According to reports from my friends, learning Spanish from Russian on Duolingo is a completely different experience, all based on memorizing large amounts of rules before any practice even begins, and it works really poorly.

I assume that learning languages on Duolingo is all about building a chain of good courses based on languages you already know by the moment you consider another one. (Only partly joking.)

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Efficient extraction of metals (and materials that can be broken down to useful precursors) from landfills and 'e-waste'. My PhD supervisor worked for years before he retired, on, among other things, magnetic separation using inhomogeneous magnetic fields. It would be a great pity if such work were forgotten.

Have you got any links or search terms?

One summary of some of the basic technologies can be found in: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-015-8263-6_... and cited references therein. A more recent variation on this theme can be found at: http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/ie020198r

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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post #344

Efficient extraction of metals (and materials that can be broken down to useful precursors) from landfills and 'e-waste'. My PhD supervisor worked for years before he retired, on, among other things, magnetic separation using inhomogeneous magnetic fields. It would be a great pity if such work were forgotten.

What is stopping such projects from scaling? Are the economics not there yet?

Not sure. I know that the conglomerate Outokumpu once had a pilot plant with high-Tc superconducting magnets deployed in the Amazon region somewhere ('Ice in the jungle'? Hah, hold my beer, try liquid-helium cooled superconducting magnets in the jungle).

I know because a colleague joined the company, and one of his first assignments was to diagnose unexpectedly large helium losses. A quick FFT later of the recorded Dewar flask levels revealed a 24-hour periodicity, and further analysis found that for a couple of hours every day, the full heat of the tropical sun was finding its way to the tin roof of the mine shed housing the superconducting magnet systems.

I haven't heard anything more about the technology or its economics/scaling since then. But I also certainly haven't heard anything more about its use with landfill-derived feedstocks, which seems like a reasonable move.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you got any links or search terms?

One summary of some of the basic technologies can be found in: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-015-8263-6_... and cited references therein. A more recent variation on this theme can be found at: http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/ie020198r

Disclaimer (does it really need one?): On the first link above: I shared responsibility for the menial editing, checking and manual indexing of the entire book volume.
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