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Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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College towns. Pick some states, and go visit towns with colleges in them. They'll have restaurants and groceries, and those faculty kids have to go to school somewhere. Internet should be passable, too. They won't be the cheapest small town option, but houses should come in well below a million bucks. The one town you mention, Lancaster, PA, is a model of the type.

please don't price students out of college towns...

It's the opposite where I am: landlords raising rates to capture more of those sweet student loan dollars. The policy of making access to credit cheap and ubiquitous for students has led to drastic growth in rents (in addition to a large expansion in college amenities and administration). That's what's pricing out locals: students paying for housing with borrowed money.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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This is where it's at. College towns are the best. They are the gems. Smaller, but with a large group of people from all over, you get that diversity you probably want. With people from all over, you get great food from all over, languages, neat people, art, etc. Another college town I like is Eugene, or Ellensberg. Flagstaff maybe? Depends on your climate, look for colleges with maybe 10k-ish students? Another one t…

Like Eugene, Corvallis is very nice. There’s decent food, and houses are a lot cheaper than Portland. It’s a lot closer to Portland on days you want to drive up, which is a plus.

Agree, Corvallis rocks. Beautiful weather, decent food, close to cities, mountains, the coast. Not sure where the down votes are coming from, maybe to stop you from letting the secret out?

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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vigilanteism implies he hunted him down. the trespasser came to his property. the guy confronted him and held him there until the authorities arrived. are you implying people should not protect their livelihood and let trespassers loot even if they could stop them? why should those property owners who are fully in the right morally and legally do that when the trespassers are flagrantly breaking the law?

I'm not talking about him protecting his property. I'm talking about the bensforbars thing.

I see, but I don't find a problem with that either though.

Seems no different than crime stoppers, it's usually just a reward for information leading to an arrest, it's not an actual bounty. It's not excluding that, but he's most likely hoping someone who knows the person who stole it will rat for the money.

And I think you'll have to provide examples of the "terrible outcomes caused by private vigilanteism".

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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I think 'decent airport' is perhaps tricky, at least on the west coast. I think you'll need to be more specific about some other things like how small is too small or how big is too big, and what 'cold' means for you. This site seems to have some good search facilities: https://www.bestplaces.net/ Also agree with the 'college towns' comment.

Lots of other places, too. If you’re not near a moderately sized city, it’ll be at least 1-2 hours drive to an airport that has any commercial flights. Even in more populous rural states like Ohio, that means being pretty close to Cleveland or Columbus. Or in Montana, you’ll just have to accept having very few options even if you live in the second largest city (Missoula). I’ve lived in more than one small town, and…

Here in Bend we have an airport that gets you to Seattle, San Francisco, Denver. For some people like me who do not travel much, that kind of thing might be 'good enough'. I think that sort of thing is reasonably common in regional airports. It'd probably be annoying not having more flights if you travel regularly.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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So now he has to buy/build a police station, fire brigade etc for his own little town of 75 properties he created.

Just put the police and fire stations inside a little square of industrial or commercial buildings.

And build one unit of transit next to them, it doesn't matter if the road or rail is connected.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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I've been fulltime remote for a few years, and just moved to Lancaster, PA. I'm loving it here. Its enough of a city that I'm not missing the amenities or multi-cultural atmosphere. The housing prices are great, and I can get to my NYC office very easily on the train or even driving. I'm very happy to have moved.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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It definitely exists, but there are so many small towns across the country, we could not possibly list them all. You need to narrow it down - do some road trips, explore regions and states, and pick a target area. Maybe choose a big city you might want to be within a few hours of. Then get a realtor from that city to educate you on the towns in the area and help you narrow down to a few actual potential locations. Then you can start looking at homes.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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The two major funders for small towns are military bases and colleges. Small college towns are stabilized by a steady stream of federal money from student loans and subsidies. They will often have better services and healthier businesses. The same goes for military towns that get a ton of money from soldiers spending cash and buying/renting housing.

Small towns that are supported by companies and agriculture have been drained dry by corporate greed. Jobs have been off-shored and taxes have been almost completely avoided. Sometimes a town is supported by a major military contractor, but they aren't terribly dependable. Some places are supported by retirees, but they aren't nearly as affordable.

So if you want to look for a stable small town, look for towns near universities, colleges, or military bases.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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> My observation, fwiw, is that the American small town, self-sufficient and independent from a neighboring city, is a dying breed. Some are, some aren't. I'm more than willing to share my story but I did my research before I left Austin for the Hill Country and couldn't be happier.

Please share

After living in Austin for 24 years and working at Samsung Austin Semiconductor for a decade, I decided that I wanted to work remotely. I learned new skillsets and started working for smaller startups where remote work was a possibility. This was pre-COVID.

I researched every town and county between Brenham and Junction for about 18 months, studying publicly available data as well as traveling to the towns to see them for myself. I tried to introduce myself to the locals, asking them about the town and their businesses. Sometimes I would call the sheriff's office or school district to ask them questions about the community. I would walk into rural hospitals and start talking to staff about their facility and services they offered.

I moved to San Saba in 2018 and then bought a second house in Lampasas in 2021. These towns are northwest of Austin, at the northern tip of what's known as the Texas Hill Country.

San Saba is more remote, more pristine. The population density is three people per square mile and there are two traffic lights in the entire county. The downtown has been revitalized over the past decade and the local ISP is very forward-thinking, offering gigabit fiber.

Lampasas is closer to Austin (an hour away), has a hospital and definitely has bit more bustle than San Saba, but nothing like the congestion one experiences in Austin.

The people out here are incredibly neighborly and hospitable, with a live-and-let-live ethos. They do not like to be preached at or lectured by outsiders, so respecting their way of doing things is of paramount importance. I've been very successful by attending city council meetings, joining volunteer organizations, teaching classes myself in the library on weekends, things like that. Figuring out how things work and contributing as best I can without being too loud about it. People will appreciate you if you can do that.

It's important that one be fairly self-sufficient when moving to an area like where I live. For example, I had to tear my house apart in San Saba to fix some structural issues caused by water penetration leading to rotten wood in the structure. Working with the contractors was definitely a learning experience and something I never want to do again. But you have to be able to figure out things like that if you live out here.

The peace and quiet, the pristine environment, the quality of life, the low crime and great community, these are all things I wouldn't trade for a spotted hog. It's not for everyone, but after living in Austin for 24 years, I much prefer it here now.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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They lost 100% of their power network to Maria. Hurricanes are becoming more common and higher intensity. Humanity's days in the Caribbean are numbered.

That's what they said about Miami until we built appropriate structures and infrastructure.

Florida is actually a good argument about this. They have mangrove forests, highways, and railways. The islands do not. I was there for Irma actually - the amount of out of state resources needed for the cleanup and recovery was not negligible. The islands don't have those luxuries or the port capacity to keep up.
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