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The article is a bit over the top, but several people on my company/team are doing exactly that approach, and have built similar orchestrators
Bear in mind that there is a lot of money riding on LLMs leading to cost savings, and development (seen as expensive and a common bottleneck) is a huge opportunity. There are paid (micro) influencer campaigns going on and what not. Also bear in mind that a lot of folks want to be seen as being on the bleeding edge, including famous people. They get money from people booking them for courses and consulting, buying the…
> There are paid (micro) influencer campaigns going on and what not. Extremely important to keep in mind when you read about LLMs, agents and what not both here, on reddit and elsewhere. Just the other day I got offered 200 USD if I posted about some new version of a "agentic coding platform" on HN, which obviously is too little for me to compromise my ethics and morals, but makes it very clear how much of this must…
This is true about everything you see advertised to you.
When I went to opensource conference (or whatever it was called) in San Diego ~8y ago, there were so many Kubernetes people. When you talked with them nobody was actually using k8s in production and were clearly devrel/paid people.
Now it seems to be everywhere... so be careful with what you ignore too
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Why didn’t you work out a more manageable billing structure with them?! Or to put it another way: if it took you 10 minutes a week with spreadsheets to even figure out what their bill is, how on earth did they verify your invoices were even correct? And if they couldn’t—or if it took more than 10 minutes each week—why wouldn’t they prefer a billing system they could verify they were being paid correctly?
Jesus! is this HN or personal finance forum? Who cares why they do it a certain way. Did they ask for your advices?
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It is delusional to believe the current frontier models can only write CRUD apps. I would think someone would have to only write CRUD apps themselves to believe this. It doesn't matter anyway what a person "believes". If anything, I am having the opposite experience that conversing with people is becoming a bigger and bigger waste of time instead of just talking to Gemini. It is not Gemini that is hallucinating all k…
There is a critical failure in education - people are not being taught how to debate without degenerating into a dominance debate or merely an echo chamber of talking points. It's a real problem, people literally do not understand that a question is not an opportunity to show off or to dominate, but is a request for an exchange of information. And that problem is not just between people, this lack of communication sk…
Which led to:
echo chambers
Forgetting how to debate and discuss things.
You needed to go full out with guns blazing to get seen before you vanished and the discussion getting locked or deleted.
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You are welcome to use whatever definition of "small/medium/large" you like. Like you, 1-2 weeks is also far from the largest project I've worked on. I don't think that's particularly relevant to the point of my post. The point that I'm trying to emphasize is that I've had success with it on projects of some scale, where you are implementing (e.g.) multiple related PRs in different services. I'm not just using it on…
I mean, if it's working for you, great. The observation I was trying to make is that at the scope of one week, there's very little you actually get done, and it's likely mostly mechanical work. Given that, I suppose I'm unsurprised LLMs are proving useful. Seems like that's the type of thing they're excelling at.
Concretely speaking (well as concretely as I feel like being without piercing pseudonymity), at my last job I worked on a multi year rewrite of one of our core services. Within that rewrite were ton of much smaller projects that were a few weeks to a month long - refactor this algorithm, improve the load balancing, add a new sharding strategy, etc. An AI tool would definitely not have sped up the whole process. It's not going to, say, speed up figuring out and handling intra-team dependencies or figuring out product design. But speeding up those smaller coding subprojects would have been a huge benefit.
I'm not making any strong claims in my post. I don't have the experience of AI projects allowing me to one shot large projects. But OP asked if anyone has concrete experience with AI coding tools speeding up development, and the answer is yes, I do.
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People make mistakes, it's not that deep. The correct incentive to encourage is admitting, and understand and forgiving when necessary because you don't want to encourage people to hide mistakes out of shame. That only makes things worse. Especially considering forgetting the delta between yours and someone else's shared context is extremely common. And the least egregious mistake you can make when writing an untarge…
My bad. I will be more mindful tomorrow when someone at a big tech company yet again make-a-mistake in the same direction of AI hyping. Maybe with a later addendum. Like journalists that write about a Fatal Storm In Houston and you read down to the eighth paragraph and it turns out the fatality were among pigeons. > when writing an untargeted promo post. lol.
Are you mad at them for playing the game, or mad that that's the game they have to play to advance at their company?
> Like journalists that write about a Fatal Storm In Houston and you read down to the eighth paragraph and it turns out the fatality were among pigeons.
I don't know; I guess I hold people who post on twitter so they can self-promo, or who have attention because they work at $company, to a slightly different standard than I would hold a journalist writing a news article?
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> Having the ability to start OpenCode, give it an issue, add a little extra context, and have the issue completed without writing a single line of code? Is this a good thing? I'm asking why you said it like this, I'm not asking you to defend anything. I'm genuinely curious about your rational/reasoning/context for why you used those words specifically? I ask, because I wouldn't willingly phrase it like this. I enjoy…
Cards on the table: this stuff saps the joy from something I loved doing, and turns me into a manager of robots. I feel like it's narrowly really bad for me. I won't get rich and my field is becoming something far from what I signed up for. My skills long developed are being devalued by the second. I hate that using these tools increases wealth inequality and concentrates power with massive corporations. I wish it di…
Pick two non-trivial tasks where you feel you can make a half-reasonable estimate on the time it should take, then time yourself. I'd be willing to bet that you don't complete it significantly faster with AI. And if you're not faster using AI, maybe ignore it like I and many others. If you enjoy writing code, keep writing code, and ignore the people lying because they need to spread FUD so they can sell something.
> But I don't get to put this genie back in the bottle.
Sounds like you've already bought into the meme that AI is actually magical, and can do everything the hype train says. I'm unconvinced. Just because there's smoke coming from the bottle doesn't mean it's a genie. What's more likely, magic is real? Or someone's lying to sell something?
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> This stuff is relatively new, I don't think anyone has truly figured out how to best approach LLM assisted development yet. A lot of folks are on it, usually not exactly following the scientific method. We'll get evidence eventually. I try to think about other truly revolutionary things. Was there evidence that GUIs would dramatically increase productivity / accessibility at first? I guess probably not. But the fir…
> Having the ability to start OpenCode, give it an issue, add a little extra context, and have the issue completed without writing a single line of code? Is this a good thing? I'm asking why you said it like this, I'm not asking you to defend anything. I'm genuinely curious about your rational/reasoning/context for why you used those words specifically? I ask, because I wouldn't willingly phrase it like this. I enjoy…
People who enjoy writing code can still do so, just not on a business context if there's a more optimal way
A principal engineer at Google posted on Twitter that Claude Code did in an hour what the team couldn’t do in a year. Two days later, after people freaked out, context was added. The team built multiple versions in that year, each had its trade offs. All that context was given to the AI and it was able to produce a “toy” version. I can only assume it had similar trade offs. https://xcancel.com/rakyll/status/200765974…
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Vibe coding is a farce, but their is real value if you have the experience to set up a decent workflow.