Not suggesting it for the UX, more of a curiosity: in France, a somewhat common convention is to put the family name in uppercase. This is well known by everyone, but not everyone does that. Sometimes you would receive an email from "Robert Martin" and stop for a second to figure it out.
Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
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Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
#402Earlier quoted context omitted.
(PhD) Dr. is a funny one in the Anglosphere and also at least parts of continental Europe (and possibly elsewhere). It's sort of a big deal in academia and some percentage of other people feel pretty attached to the title. For others, the attitude is more it's just a degree and lots of people have advanced degrees that we don't go around using honorifics for.
I didn't even know that I could put my Bachelor of Engineering degree next to my name, and from what I can tell on the Internet, putting it next to my name would be considered pretentious.
I've got a Bachelor of Science, so I'd be toast0, BS. Which seems appropriate, because putting a title like that feels like BS. It's in Computer Engineering, so I could be toast0, BSCE. But that feels pretentious.
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
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I certainly don't mind being called "Mr.", but I don't see why it can't just be another field, or part of a free-text field.
Like you, I don't mind being called "Mr.", but the problem is that my sister would very much prefer not to put "Miss" (and not to lie) because it results in undesired advances, and my wife would also prefer to not put "Mrs." because it results in discrimination for the opposite reason, and because it results in people asking to talk to me instead. At the same time, you can't drop it entirely, because my aunt will com…
> would very much prefer not to put "Miss" (and not to lie) because it results in undesired advances, and my wife would also prefer to not put "Mrs." because it results in discrimination for the opposite reason
The opposite reason being that she desires advances? Unless you are implying an open marriage, that doesn’t sound right. Can you clarify what you mean?
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
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Title is the one that always confuses me since titles are basically non-existent here. It seems really like a really important thing in the Anglosphere and I have no idea why. I just always pick "Dr" when I'm forced to pick one. So far it has never made any difference.
(PhD) Dr. is a funny one in the Anglosphere and also at least parts of continental Europe (and possibly elsewhere). It's sort of a big deal in academia and some percentage of other people feel pretty attached to the title. For others, the attitude is more it's just a degree and lots of people have advanced degrees that we don't go around using honorifics for.
It is the last degree, after all.
Lots of people (this will seem ridiculous to anyone who’s worked with academics, but) seem to mix up PhD’s, lecturers, and don’t know about the grueling path from there to full-on tenured professor.
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
(PhD) Dr. is a funny one in the Anglosphere and also at least parts of continental Europe (and possibly elsewhere). It's sort of a big deal in academia and some percentage of other people feel pretty attached to the title. For others, the attitude is more it's just a degree and lots of people have advanced degrees that we don't go around using honorifics for.
I didn't even know that I could put my Bachelor of Engineering degree next to my name, and from what I can tell on the Internet, putting it next to my name would be considered pretentious.
Oh, MSEE would, I guess, finally solve the awkward question of “what do you use as a title if you have a masters degree,” haha.
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
#406Earlier quoted context omitted.
I certainly don't mind being called "Mr.", but I don't see why it can't just be another field, or part of a free-text field.
Like you, I don't mind being called "Mr.", but the problem is that my sister would very much prefer not to put "Miss" (and not to lie) because it results in undesired advances, and my wife would also prefer to not put "Mrs." because it results in discrimination for the opposite reason, and because it results in people asking to talk to me instead. At the same time, you can't drop it entirely, because my aunt will com…
Isn’t the first problem you mentioned what “Ms” was invented for?
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
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Is there an article showing a solution because listing problems is the easy part? And maybe it's just me but >because names are central to our identities, virtually by definition. isn't true, my name is for the outside world, inside I'm just I, that's my identity.
You don't refer to yourself in private by your own name?
I had no part in choosing any of the names assigned to me at birth; I don't use them and don't particularly feel any attachment to them.
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
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Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
#409In my opinion, name should always be a two field setup. One would be the full name for legal documentation. This can be tokenized for searching databases. The other would be the preferred name of address "You may call me Jim" which shows up on "Welcome Jim!" messages. Trying to parse out names is almost pointless. There are so many different name standards it's bonkers. If you want you could even include a phonetic section for pronunciation.
If you need to split first, middle and last name for US government form entry you can just ask for those when you need them individually.
Re: Ask HN: How to handle Asian-style “Family name first” when designing interfaces?
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Many Indonesian Javanese people only have a single name. It is more rare these days, but certainly not zero, or only old people who don't use computer. I've met people in their 20s with a single name. Also, in (South) Korea, depending upon the person's preference, they may choose to do family name first or last. It's crazy. I don't know why. (Can someone explain it to me?) As a result, most will write their romanized…
I used to know an American guy in Amsterdam who only had a single name. His explanation was always that his parents were a bit weird. It was a short 4-letter name too. He might well be in the running for the shortest name ever.
I recall seeing an article once about someone immigrating with a single character name having to basically pick a name as the IT systems didn't allow it