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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Regarding #6, what is different between OS X and Windows versions of Sublime?

I think you mean #5, and while I've had good (limited) experience with Sublime, but one of my other favorite tools (SourceTree) is absolutely horrendous on Windows. Just a single data point.

I had the opposite experience with SourceTree going from Windows to OSx. The lack of tabs on the OSx version is horrible.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding #6, what is different between OS X and Windows versions of Sublime?

I think (no proof, but I seem to remember) that there are a number of plugins that are only available for Linux / OS X. Also, I think that point was less about Sublime and more about the other development tools that are Mac only.

Surely non of the Mac only tools are non-replaceable, are they??

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Not really, if any I would migrate to Linux (Ubuntu). But OSX apps really spoiled me.

I only use Windows for Steam. Boot, play, logout, hand sanitizer, back to OSX.

I just hate Windows UI, that metro thingy. The explorer and button layout is just a mess. Buttons with icons, difference sizes.

eg:

http://media.askvg.com/articles/images3/Windows_8_Explorer_R...

vs

http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mac-os-x-...

I really hope windows 10 cleans that mess.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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When Windows 10 comes out I'll probably pull the trigger and get a Microsoft Surface for testing, but I don't think I'll ever leave OS X for Windows. (to name a few) 1: Recently helped a friend install a new hard drive in a Lenovo Edge 15 only to find out the laptop has problems with Crucial SSDs (it brought back to many driver / hardware compatibility issues from my past jobs) 2: Features like Dashboard, Expose, Not…

> 3: I've never seen a PC laptop with a touchpad as good as on a Mac

I've customized mine with touchegg (made for GNU/Linux systems) and it does everything I've seen Mac users do and more. Need no Apple for that one, and there are probably Windows tools as well though I wouldn't know which.

> 6: Handoff in OS X with my iPhone is such a great convenience.

I don't know what "handoff" is, but regarding interoperability, a rooted Android phone running GNU tools (e.g. Linux Deploy app) is a dream when you have a GNU-based laptop/desktop operating system as well. I can browse my phone like a network drive and getting a shell is as easy as connecting to any old linux server.

This doesn't make your other points less valid, by the way. There is surely a good argument to be made for OS X.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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When Windows 10 comes out I'll probably pull the trigger and get a Microsoft Surface for testing, but I don't think I'll ever leave OS X for Windows. (to name a few) 1: Recently helped a friend install a new hard drive in a Lenovo Edge 15 only to find out the laptop has problems with Crucial SSDs (it brought back to many driver / hardware compatibility issues from my past jobs) 2: Features like Dashboard, Expose, Not…

Regarding number 1... Installing non-apple SSD in a macbook isn't smooth sailing either. The difference is that in windows the OS isn't necessarily playing against you.

I run two MacBooks with non-apple SSD's (and Linux). What goes wrong for you? (serious question)

(Disclosure: I'd prefer to run a ThinkPad or something, but meh, boss-provided machine.)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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I'm idly curious about whether Microsoft will ever "pull an OS X". In my imagination, they'd drop their whole legacy OS except for an emulation layer, and port their Windows Store stuff to a new platform. The new platform, as I imagine it, would be based on Linux and focus primarily on web apps and games. One part web-based cross-device UI runtime, one part serious gaming support. The idea of Microsoft embracing Linu…

Said "emulation layer" would basically be Wine. I'm afraid this whole MS-Linux speculation is just nonsensical, far fetched fantasy. Dropping Windows entirely is certainly plausible, but they'd probably do it in favor of the Midori OS their research lab has been working on based on the managed runtime aspects they've been learning from Singularity. Of course I know how file systems work, but in the shoes of an everyd…

Thanks, I didn't know about Midori.

Yeah, it is fantasy. I don't know enough to say whether it's far-fetched. I don't think it's obviously nonsensical.

Linux of course has tons of advantages. A huge community, lots of hardware support, open source, etc. Microsoft has been talking about how they "love Linux." Why wouldn't it be a reasonable base for a new platform? Like how Apple went with XNU/Mach/BSD?

I'm not really talking about "switching to Linux". I'm talking about building a new operating system that uses Linux as the underlying kernel. Since it's my fantasy, I declare that this new operating system has a very clean and well-organized file manager...

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Nope. As long as we keep deploying on Linux there is no point in developing on Windows. I'm perfectly happy to use Ubuntu as my desktop, most people around me use Macs. A VM for testing with IE will be enough and there are web services for that. With the open sourcing of .NET we're probably going to see .NET applications running on Linux servers too. So Windows clients get less and less valuable. Remember that there…

Visual Studio Code (for OS X and Linux) are glorified code editors, not full-blown IDEs. They appear to be well done, and a similar experience to Visual Studio for editing code, but Visual Studio as an IDE is much more than an editor.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

#49
I always try to keep a few fingers dipped into a current Microsoft system. I'm not a 10xer, my value to a company is in being able to communicate with my coworkers, smooth edges, give ideas, et cetera. The better I can understand what other people are working with, the more valuable I can be. I'm not a "windows person" but I am still able to get around because I can bring my unixy debugging stuff as a general technique.

Knowing some Windows is basically like trying to stay current with which "sports" are being played - my coworkers know I'm not really into either, but being able to follow along reduces the impedance mismatch significantly.

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