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Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Going to promote http://offerletter.io here :-) We help engineers and other workers by connecting them with a live human who can help evaluate opportunities, and give them advice to help them get what they're worth. OfferLetter is adding real value to people's lives and careers. We have a lot of great data on market rates, career trajectories, and company cultures. And because of our tip-as-percent-increase structure…

Are you looking for any additional advisors?

Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Doesn't look scalable for a startup but I'd give my pinky (OK, maybe just a month's salary) for having a decent tech recruiter work for me (developer open to new opportunities), as in sparing me of the 90% of BS that I usually go through when dealing with recruiters/companies.

I'm a recruiter. Before that, I was an engineer for 5 years. What you're describing sounds really good, but it's likely not going to happen. For the record, I agree with you completely and try to work in the manner you describe, but there are a number of economic incentives working against you before scale is even an issue. Generally, recruiters work for specific client companies and try to fill seats at those compan…

I agree with you and I understand that a recruiter works for the companies and not for me. Regarding "Engineers were super excited about this. Until I mentioned that part where they'd have to pay me, that is", what specific services were you thinking of providing and what rates would make it work?

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Hired.com (formerly DeveloperAuction) comes to mind. I found my current role at Lookout through Hired. Having worked with traditional recruiters in the past, the difference with Hired is they have candidates' interests in mind as opposed to focusing solely on commissions. If you're qualified, they put your resume/CV in front of tons of great companies, give you the inside scoop on how interviews work at different com…

How long does it usually take for the approval process and to get offers?

Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a recruiter. Before that, I was an engineer for 5 years. What you're describing sounds really good, but it's likely not going to happen. For the record, I agree with you completely and try to work in the manner you describe, but there are a number of economic incentives working against you before scale is even an issue. Generally, recruiters work for specific client companies and try to fill seats at those compan…

I agree with you and I understand that a recruiter works for the companies and not for me. Regarding "Engineers were super excited about this. Until I mentioned that part where they'd have to pay me, that is", what specific services were you thinking of providing and what rates would make it work?

I was throwing out the idea that I would handle someone's job search. Basically, you would tell me what you wanted in broad strokes, and I would keep looking until I found the right job for you. I'd also take on the grunt work that normally comes with mounting a job search (e.g. interview scheduling, travel logistics, timing things so they come together at the same time, etc), and I'd either help with or act as a proxy in offer negotiations, depending on which you were comfortable with.

I threw out a few price points when I was chatting with folks, and across the board, everyone was pretty surprised that I'd be charging them. In order for this to be worth my time, I'd need at least $5000 or so per head, and that seemed like an insurmountable figure for people. The best I could get was something along the lines of, "If you can guarantee that I will make $20K more per year, then I can give you a cut," but I didn't really like that either because it still creates the wrong incentives, essentially making it not in my interest to ever refer anyone into a cash-poor, equity-heavy situation, or really into any company that couldn't throw out a lot of cash.

The closest thing I've seen to what I described is offerletter.io (also mentioned on this thread), but I think that has a good chance of working out because of the focus on just the negotiation aspect.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you and I understand that a recruiter works for the companies and not for me. Regarding "Engineers were super excited about this. Until I mentioned that part where they'd have to pay me, that is", what specific services were you thinking of providing and what rates would make it work?

I was throwing out the idea that I would handle someone's job search. Basically, you would tell me what you wanted in broad strokes, and I would keep looking until I found the right job for you. I'd also take on the grunt work that normally comes with mounting a job search (e.g. interview scheduling, travel logistics, timing things so they come together at the same time, etc), and I'd either help with or act as a pro…

thanks, I was thinking 5k or even 10k (about a month's salary) makes sense, esp. if you are able somehow to tap into jobs that are not easily searchable.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was throwing out the idea that I would handle someone's job search. Basically, you would tell me what you wanted in broad strokes, and I would keep looking until I found the right job for you. I'd also take on the grunt work that normally comes with mounting a job search (e.g. interview scheduling, travel logistics, timing things so they come together at the same time, etc), and I'd either help with or act as a pro…

thanks, I was thinking 5k or even 10k (about a month's salary) makes sense, esp. if you are able somehow to tap into jobs that are not easily searchable.

Ping me if you want to discuss further, either in a purely academically sense or more practically. aline@alinelerner.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you and I understand that a recruiter works for the companies and not for me. Regarding "Engineers were super excited about this. Until I mentioned that part where they'd have to pay me, that is", what specific services were you thinking of providing and what rates would make it work?

I was throwing out the idea that I would handle someone's job search. Basically, you would tell me what you wanted in broad strokes, and I would keep looking until I found the right job for you. I'd also take on the grunt work that normally comes with mounting a job search (e.g. interview scheduling, travel logistics, timing things so they come together at the same time, etc), and I'd either help with or act as a pro…

Oh, and interview prep as well.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Hired.com (formerly DeveloperAuction) comes to mind. I found my current role at Lookout through Hired. Having worked with traditional recruiters in the past, the difference with Hired is they have candidates' interests in mind as opposed to focusing solely on commissions. If you're qualified, they put your resume/CV in front of tons of great companies, give you the inside scoop on how interviews work at different com…

How long does it usually take for the approval process and to get offers?

I don't remember exactly how long it took, but something like a week or so to get approved, and then they run auctions ever few weeks or so. The "offers" are really just invitations to interview where salary, equity and perks are laid out transparently ahead of time so that you can decide if an opportunity is right for your situation.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Going to promote http://offerletter.io here :-) We help engineers and other workers by connecting them with a live human who can help evaluate opportunities, and give them advice to help them get what they're worth. OfferLetter is adding real value to people's lives and careers. We have a lot of great data on market rates, career trajectories, and company cultures. And because of our tip-as-percent-increase structure…

Are you looking for any additional advisors?

Helen - Always happy to talk with empathetic people. Drop me a line - mallyvai@offerletter.io

Re: Ask HN: Do you know startups that are changing the world of tech recruitment?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was throwing out the idea that I would handle someone's job search. Basically, you would tell me what you wanted in broad strokes, and I would keep looking until I found the right job for you. I'd also take on the grunt work that normally comes with mounting a job search (e.g. interview scheduling, travel logistics, timing things so they come together at the same time, etc), and I'd either help with or act as a pro…

thanks, I was thinking 5k or even 10k (about a month's salary) makes sense, esp. if you are able somehow to tap into jobs that are not easily searchable.

Going to hijack Aline's thread here - we do this in a very targeted way at http://offerletter.io. We charge individuals to help them negotiate their offers and really make the best decision possible overall. Is this closer to what you were thinking of?
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