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Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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I really think it's a disgrace that HN is down for hours just to do some (probably important) back-end work. Here we are, talking about scalability, high-availability, what have you - and the medium we're using to host those discussions is built on 90s web technology and operated as one. I understand that Hacker News is probably run by a small crew, but I think it's a disgrace anyway. If you guys need money to make t…

Look, I think the message delivery here is very poor -- there's no need to be rude. And getting angry is uncalled for. That said, I do agree with the sentiment expressed here: it is pretty amazing that a site that is really a nexus of high-tech Silicon Valley companies and figures -- quite possibly the most popular one in that segment -- still has downtime and a web interface reminiscent of the 1990s. And I disagree…

Let's make sure dang is wearing a shirt and tie everyday. Maybe we should be asking to see some timesheets? Oh, and about those TPS reports? We're putting cover sheets on the reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right!

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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I agree with the content of your message, but: > free from ads It is not, to insert news to hire hackers for YCombinator startups is an incredibly useful thing who run this site is getting back, and it is a form of advertising.

I see that as a service to the Hackers just as much as to the start-ups. Everybody wins.

Said every advertiser ever (and every recruiter that ever cold-contacted you). I do appreciate your point and although I've no problem with the job posts, they are still advertising.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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post #17

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I agree with the content of your message, but: > free from ads It is not, to insert news to hire hackers for YCombinator startups is an incredibly useful thing who run this site is getting back, and it is a form of advertising.

I see that as a service to the Hackers just as much as to the start-ups. Everybody wins.

I totally agree, but it's still a very valuable form of advertising. Companies would pay big money for featured ads on HN.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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I see that as a service to the Hackers just as much as to the start-ups. Everybody wins.

I totally agree, but it's still a very valuable form of advertising. Companies would pay big money for featured ads on HN.

They don't have to pay, they can just submit.

Or wait for the 'who is hiring' thread that rolls around the 1st of the month.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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Not sure why you were downvoted, but I completely agree. I get the 'Unknown or expired link' message all the time because I'll write long comments, or write part of a comment, get sidetracked, then finish. There's no reason for this error message, and to have tokens time out after what feels like a matter of minutes. Then of course this happens on the homepage too, when you click 'more', after being inactive for a wh…

It's a way of warning you that someone else might have made the same point that you're about to make and that you should reply in a fresh thread. Prepare your replies in a text editor and copy 'n' paste them to the new text entry box.

I simply can't believe that's the reason. It's an error message, not a warning. It doesn't check if new comments have been posted to that thread, it doesn't prompt you with the new comments, and ask if you want to continue with the post, and it doesn't make it easy to go back to the original thread to check if there are new comments.

Asking users to type in an external text editor, and then copy/paste isn't a reasonable solution for a message board.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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post #8

I really think it's a disgrace that HN is down for hours just to do some (probably important) back-end work. Here we are, talking about scalability, high-availability, what have you - and the medium we're using to host those discussions is built on 90s web technology and operated as one. I understand that Hacker News is probably run by a small crew, but I think it's a disgrace anyway. If you guys need money to make t…

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Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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post #40

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First of all, thanks Dan for all the hard work. Think about it this way: you need your fix so badly that within minutes you're back here to vent your frustration. And yet you have nowhere else to go. So HN can afford the downtime easily, and with what I know of the way it is put together the reliability is astounding. Now imagine it shuttin HN down for a month! (I sensed a disturbance in the force there when you read…

> thanks Dan Thank Nick! I did keep him company though.

Ok, thanks Nick!

I hope you guys did not lose too much sweat. Messing with a live site like this always makes me lose weight.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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post #37

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> "A website for hackers with 'opening hours' that simply refuses connections from your locality when you're supposed to be at work." I'd argue that HN already has this kind of functionality with the noprocrast setting [1]. [1] Last question at http://ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

Yes, but that's easily defeatable. I know that because err. never mind.

Yup, I posted it more because it's easy to miss those features of HN if they're not occasionally pointed out.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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post #41
post #35

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Look, I think the message delivery here is very poor -- there's no need to be rude. And getting angry is uncalled for. That said, I do agree with the sentiment expressed here: it is pretty amazing that a site that is really a nexus of high-tech Silicon Valley companies and figures -- quite possibly the most popular one in that segment -- still has downtime and a web interface reminiscent of the 1990s. And I disagree…

Let's make sure dang is wearing a shirt and tie everyday. Maybe we should be asking to see some timesheets? Oh, and about those TPS reports? We're putting cover sheets on the reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right!

I realize you're being sarcastic, but what does a corporate environment have to do with being efficient or competent? I don't associate the two -- in fact, I find that very traditional corporate atmospheres are often a strong signal of incompetence.

I have no idea what TPS reports are.

In any case, please realize that I took the time to write a respectful and non-emotional comment, and it clearly struck a nerve since it's been upvoted to the top subcomment above dozens of other comments.

I am very grateful that a place like HN exists, and I appreciate all the work that has been done building it up and maintaining it. I'm just pointing out an area that I think needs some work. And that's just my (respectful) opinion, nothing more.

Re: Ask HN: Downtime. What was changed?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with the content of your message, but: > free from ads It is not, to insert news to hire hackers for YCombinator startups is an incredibly useful thing who run this site is getting back, and it is a form of advertising.

I see that as a service to the Hackers just as much as to the start-ups. Everybody wins.

The fact that an ad is well-placed makes it no less an ad.
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