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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#41
The joy being gone is the big painful one for me. Talking to colleagues and friends who like slopifying everything, they seem to love it. It's a divide between us and them; they never really liked programming in the first place and only considered it a job.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#42

Anyone can do it? Is everyone you know making a million dollars a year with their software startup? Are you?

Anyone with internet connection, a phone/laptop, and a few dollars to spare can create anything. Earlier it was not like this.

All of a sudden, your competition is anyone from anywhere in the world. Yes, to really make a million dollars, you need more than making the software. Even if you end up making a million dollars, you have 1000s of copy-cats from all parts of the world stealing your pie in no time. An average Joe will have tough time knowing which one is good and which ones to avoid.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#43

I’m actually incredibly excited for the future! Individuals are now a lot more empowered to work effectively with computers (including us in the tech industry). Would you honestly wanna go back to pre-LLM? I now have more fun learning CS concepts and the side projects I can work on now were previously impossible. On the other hand, if you only got into CS for the money… then I take your point.

This is how I feel too!

If you want to get excited… think about all the things that ever got you excited about the future. Then think about how you basically had to defer the possibility of them happening in your lifetime.

Readjust your timelines! Determine what is the most amazing thing that could happen, that you could contribute to, by orchestrating computation effectively.

I mean we don’t even have a cure for cancer yet!

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#44
post #11

Corollary to your complaints: Another downside that I haven't seen on anyone's AI hatelist yet is that it crowds out all other discussion. What happened to everyone talking about languages, protocols, algorithms, architecture, etc.? We can't have those conversations anymore because we're not even sure they matter now. In fact, we probably suspect they don't, hence the not bothering. Also, anything we do write will ju…

why write programming languages if LLMs are fast enough to talk plaintext everything to eachother with perfect memory

At some point (soon), the massive inefficiency of this system will stop being subsidized. Also, it’s nondeterministic and unreliable.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#46
This is a form of ego death and should be taken seriously.

Your/our place(s) in society have been shaken up like dice in a cup...and someone may not even care to pour them out and see what numbers come out.

What are you like when no one is watching?

Like any death, it will re-arrange your values.

Fortunately existentialist philosophers have been grasping with this for some time.

The secret is you have to make your own meaning. It can be scary. Don't freak out. You've essentially been forced to become a radical non-conformist.

Also: the ego usually reassembles itself like the robot in Saturn 3. It just comes back a little different, a little more mature. And often it's grateful for every good thing you've ever done for yourself and others.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#47
I agree that AI is a gamechanger in many ways, however it is not the end of life or the end of civilization. Life will go on, and people will be happy productive members of society, even with AI becoming part of everyday life - at least that is what I believe, since believing the alternative would be self defeating.

When I think back to the 90s when the internet became popular, to me, living in the middle of nowhere, being able to interact with others through a computer, it was such an exciting time and it is what got me into programming. I believe right now today, there will be young people who may, just like me, be super excited about this AI thing, want to learn more about it, become a wielder of it, with all the energy and hope that comes with youth, just like when I discovered the internet. To them AI is not a "learn this new thing or you are going to be left behind", but it is probably something that gives them hope.

Even older people can do this. I remember when I was 16 a taxi driver, probably in his 50s asking me to tell him about this internet thing: "what should I do to learn the internet?". I fondly remember this driver since he seemed to have such an innoncent interest and willingness to learn from this 16 year old who didn't know anything himself.

Even with AI, as good as it is now, as well as with it becoming better, people will be part of the process. Although I'm nostalgic about how software used to be created, I'm trying to embrace the new way of doing things and look for new opportunities and a way how I can make a difference, with a positive outlook - this has never failed for me in the past.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#48

Indeed it feels so uninspiring, no talent/skill needed and my experience of 17 years feels a bit pointless. In the past few months I have used Codex to build apps, so it's not like Im not using AI it just makes my/the career seem dumb. Also, the LinkedIn recruiter semi flood of messages offering potential jobs has dried up completely(anyone else experience this too?). Linkedin is now just a sad and depressing place a…

I'm in a shitty place for working as a dev, and I still get recruiters knocking. What they're offering is not great, but that's because the market here is shit. At least there's something!

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#49
Yeah, the worst part is feeling suspicious of new things because who knows if anyone actually put any thought into it or if it's just slop.

Also while a lot of this generative ai stuff is technically interesting, I do wonder what the opportunity cost is. What else could we have gotten if big tech and investors decided to spend 1.5 trillon dollars on other things? Instead of a machine that outputs the most likely token given an input.

Also the amount of spam that is going to being and going to be created because of these tools is very frustrating. It feels like the open internet is going to be coming to a close just so communities can manage the spam tsunami. And I don't just mean signup to view websites I also mean private internets created with tools like Netbird or Tailscale so your content doesn't get scrapped anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else feel like nothing matters anymore?

#50

Indeed it feels so uninspiring, no talent/skill needed and my experience of 17 years feels a bit pointless. In the past few months I have used Codex to build apps, so it's not like Im not using AI it just makes my/the career seem dumb. Also, the LinkedIn recruiter semi flood of messages offering potential jobs has dried up completely(anyone else experience this too?). Linkedin is now just a sad and depressing place a…

As a backend/full-stack engineer I still receive at least a few linkedin recruiter messages a week.

curious how long have you been in the field? Ive been wondering if it's my age or my LinkedIn algorithm changed for the worse in February once I updated it. I hadnt updated it in many years previously.
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