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Ask HN: How to be alone?

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Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#42
I feel you. The fear of being alone is natural, it is uneasy because you are forced to confront your true self. It takes a while to get used to the lack of the social cushioning, but you don't have to do it all alone drastically. First thing you need to address is the fear of being lonely - the root cause is lack of self dependence. Or rather, too much social dependence. You need to (slowly) learn to be comfortable with your self. You do that by not looking at it like a punishment. It is just being at peace.

Having said that, I always like to join hobby groups on meetup.com (say cycling or DIY crafts or book clubs) and get to meet new people that way. It helps. The other thing I love to do is attend conferences or tech talks. It really removes that feeling of being lonely and since you do it on your terms, you will come to a point where you realize loneliness is just a choice and you can be around people whenever you like.

Also, look into real passion projects - you can spend time working on stuff you love to do and it will offset any emptiness you feel. I love working on my car and speaker building. Some of the projects can take years and I will spend one weekend or a random weekday working on it. It really turns being alone into an advantage.

When I felt alone early in my career, I used to go to this shared office space near my house or WeWork once or twice a week and surrounded myself with people there. It helped a lot. The day you realize you can live with yourself without needing anyone around is when you will also start feeling less depressed. People come and go, you are the only one for yourself.

Hope this helps and if you ever feel like talking to someone, don't hesitate to shoot an email (in my profile). Always love to meet new people :)

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#43
I initially read this as "I want to experience aloneness, how do I do it". I read it that way because to me, being alone is an incredibly wonderful and useful experience. You can know things when you are alone that you cannot otherwise know. Like your true size in the universe. There is nothing like being alone at night, outside, when the temperature is 20 without anything or anyone around you.

This is not something you will experience when being alone, locked in a room or a building. Or surrounded by people. You need to be in the wild, in nature. Do it.

In those moments of being alone you learn something that allows you to be more alive. More deeply in the world. And a way to give you a context for not being alone.

So my first suggestion is to go someplace where you are completely alone and on your own for a while. Out in nature.

People can be the most wonderful creatures on earth. And the worst. There is a pretty good way to find them at their best, and it is hilarious. Go on a quest.

What is a quest? It is not an intellectual thing, it is a thing of the heart. It does not have to be a great thing, but it does have to be one that matters to you - you have to care about it.

For example, you might decide to spend the night outside, alone in the winter. Do not read a book about this. Start asking people. Tell them why you are going on your quest and ask them if they know anyone who can help you learn how.

Now the secret to a successful quest is to follow it. If someone says Joe and Josie know, then go ask Joe and Josie. And of course you are honor bound to actually do the quest. People are utterly wonderful about helping someone, so ask for help.

Finally, write. Get a fountain pen and a notebook (or cheat and get a ballpoint pen). Sit down. Set a timer for one hour and write. The goal is to write sentences continuously for one hour. It matters not what you write. If you want (and can actually do it) you can write the same one over and over, but it has to be some sentence - no matter how broken.

We all get stuck in the past. The cure for the past is the future, the new. You have open doors in front. One or more of those has better things than anything in your past. So go there.

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#44
Making friends as an adult, especially starting from zero, is a universal struggle, so try to avoid any negative self-talk or other things that may compound your loneliness. The usual advice works, but like all advice it only works when we’re ready for it to work. I wish I could offer more than platitudes, but you sound like you have a decent self-support system already, and maybe are just temporarily lacking in confidence.

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#45
Hey friend, I am also 38, and I am also recently "aloned". I had a break up in August and lived with my parents until February.

At first it was strange, I was acutely feeling the loneliness. But gradually I started seeing its upsides, and I am beginning to dangerously enjoy it haha.

I am using the time and space to take care of and express myself. Live slowly, cook myself warm dinners, nice coffees; I made a cozy nook for reading, I am planning on adding fragrant flowers to my terrace.

I am planning on a routine, which includes going to the gym and actually trying and enjoy moving my body. Sometimes I have the luxury of just sitting in the park next to the gym and soak up some sun, enjoy the sounds if birds and the water fountain.

I am hybrid so I get to go to the office and see my colleagues. Somehow, luckily, every weekend some social event happened, a dear friend came to visit. It was my aunts birthday. I also have a housewarming planned in two weeks which motivates me to make the place beautiful to show off.

My advice would be, simply, to focus on the current moment. Thoughts take you awry, try not to ruminate. Have a plan, and trust the process. There are five things absolutely needed for health and happiness(not in a particular order):

1. Good food 2. Exercising 3. Sunlight 4. Sleep 5. Friends

So while you are alone, I would question the rest too, do you eat well? Do you exercise? Do you go out? Do you sleep well?

The way our mind works is whenever a state comes up, it ups the likelihood of that state to come up again. So try to summon happy states, would be difficult and feel fake at first but it really works. Gratitude is a good one. Writing or expressing it doesn't work well for me, so I like to do it when I clean, I feel grateful as I am gently scrubbing the mirror for instance for helping me fix up my appearance. Find yours.

From what you wrote it sounds like you already know what to do, but you are reluctant. Why is that? One could identify with one's depression by ruminating over it.

In closing I highly recommend the book, the Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle, it has a free audiobook on YouTube too.

I wish you the best of luck. Life could be whatever you want it to be and there is no true self, all is constructed and you can engineer your psyche anew.

Cheers

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#46
I can relate to some of what you’re describing, though from a different angle. I’ve always been somewhat of a loner, and as I’ve gotten older I’ve grown increasingly dissatisfied with the shallowness of many modern interactions: the constant glance at the screen, that black brick glued to the hand, the strange absence of attention even when you try to do something kind for someone. It often feels like we’re all performing a kind of theater of socialization.

One thing that helped me over the years was cultivating a richer inner life and maintaining some contact with nature. Long walks, quiet time, reading, building things slowly, the kinds of activities that don’t depend on an audience. At first that kind of solitude can feel oppressive, but with time it can also become a kind of freedom.

As you get older, or at least that has been my experience, you begin to realize how precious each moment is, and how little sense it makes to spend too much of it on interactions that feel hollow. Real presence, even if rare, becomes much more valuable.

Your situation is clearly different, and the transition you’re going through sounds genuinely hard. But sometimes these chapters also open space to rediscover parts of yourself that were quiet for a long time. I wish you strength navigating this change, and I hope you eventually find a rhythm that feels meaningful again.

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#47

This might sound silly but I'd consider getting my dog a dog. This will not be the absolute solution but your dog will have a companion and your house will have more life.

My dog has been a beacon of hope through these last years of being alone. Highly agree. They can be a ton of work depending on the breed but there are plenty of dogs at the pound who might end up saving you in the end and not the other way around.

Loneliness is a state of mind. And sometimes when I am with people I feel the most alone. So above all else just be kind to yourself. Eat well, watch things you enjoy, do things you always dreamt of doing as a kid. That is how I stay sane at least, haha.

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#48
Couple of things that helped me in similar situations:

- volunteer: find a place you can help others, go cook for the homeless, work with other volunteers, not only are you doing good and meeting new people, you also appreciate what you have more

- think about what made you happy when you were younger, connect with your younger self, explore the dreams you never had a chance to fulfill

- go to therapy: this will help you better understand your feelings, a professional who is there to listen to you, help you get out of loops you are stuck in, normalize your thinking about life. Hinghly recommended!

- do sports: this will help you stay fit and have little successes, you can feel good about.

The world is wonderful, try to explore it and be patient with yourself. Trust the process, improve yourself, be kind and look at this period as a test that will shape your future self. It’s hard now but better days are coming if you put in the work. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#49
post #32

Might be worth putting some focus on your physical health. That always pays dividends in every other aspect of your life. Off the top of my head. Join a gym and just do a few machines or the treadmill. Gradually branch out into more. Get a few minutes of noon time sun on your skin. Prioritize good sleep. Walk thirty minutes a day. Start paying attention to what you eat.

Definitely! I was in a slump last year and once I've started doing stuff like this I felt better every week since the start of this year. Yeah, it doesn't sound like much if you take a peek at the YouTube fitness influencer sphere but it's what most people need in actuality. I also recommend pairing this with a habit tracker so it's easier to keep at it.

Re: Ask HN: How to be alone?

#50
I'm used to being alone due to difficulties socializing and having moved multiple times. I will turn 31 later this year.

Short term I would suggest you going to cafes or other similar places in the weekends. Even if you end up not interacting with people, having them around already helps in itself. Plus, you might actually end up interacting with someone.

To get out of the bad mood, you can also try to call a relative on the phone, I found this to be helpful many times in the moment, but not always.

Personally, especially now that the weather is getting warm where I am, I often go out for walks or runs while listening to podcasts. But beware that using headphones all the time makes it harder to interact with others.

More long term, I would advice looking for a job where you show up in person, so that you get to interact with your coworkers.

I would also suggest talking about this with your psychiatrist, to get some advice that is more tailored to you. One last thing. While I'm not a doctor and this definitely isn't medical advice, I heard about studies showing that physical exercise is as effective as certain anti-depressants. You could discuss this with your doctor as well, as if it works for you, it has more benefits and less side effects than pills. Additionally, if you join some sport class that could be another way to meet people.

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