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Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#41
Drupal works very well as a headless CMS now

https://www.drupal.org/docs/develop/decoupled-drupal https://www.lullabot.com/resource/decoupled-drupal

Drupal has a really strong community behind it, and was completely rebuilt a number of years ago with modern PHP. It uses Symfony, composer, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#42
The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress.

You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video.

Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress.

Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress-only hosting.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#43

Why headless ? If non technical admin will post details about events, you can find a WordPress plugin for it and setup a WP site. Headless makes sense if you want to really customize the experience but you want "cheapest option" so I would assume they cannot pay for customizations anyway.

How else are they going to synergize with the latest paradigm shift?

Headless is for sharing a common backend between a web site and phone apps. If you don't have the resources for the apps then it serves little purpose.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#44
I'd recommend the following options. Both platforms offer enterprise solutions, but also provide free starter plans:

https://www.storyblok.com/

https://www.datocms.com/

From own experience, the developer experience is awesome. Both are based in Europe, which is probably why those were not mentioned here before :)

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

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I wouldn't be setting up a static site + headless CMS for a non-technical organization. This is basically asking for a constant headache. Just set them up on a website builder like Webflow/Framer/Ycode/Squarespace/etc that has a CMS built in.

On the other hand I worked for a small place that was spending over 250k'ish per year on website maintenance to a company that setup their headless CMS website that they sold them. They complained about it constantly but they kept paying (7 years and going when I was doing work for them which by they way they constantly tried to shortchange me). Never feel bad about taking money from a company, its just business. Set…

There is some truth to this. One of the fails we had was pricing our product too low, where it was looked at as a stepping stone to something more expensive, even though it provided the same exact functionality minus the fancy looking ui. There were businesses that wanted to get out of their existing application suite, but are hooked in due to management perception and the sunk cost fallacy. The company who overpriced considerably is reaping millions per year on that application. If I could just go back in time..

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#46

The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress. You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video. Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress. Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress…

I hate to agree because I hate WordPress, but when building something for others especially in a volunteer community it's still the go-to solution.

Pros, a ton of docs, easy non-technical customization, long term support, many already experienced users, made for basically exactly what you're doing.

Cons, it's WordPress, and the actual wp-loop is a nightmare of bad choices.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#47
In my experience, the cheapest way to serve content on the web is static, for convenience rendered with a static site generator.

It's admittedly more editor-less than headless, but anything that constantly needs to runs on a server will cost more, in the end, even if it's a freemium service, right now.

Editing content with Obsidian and rendering it with Hugo is no too bad, btw. (see eg. https://www.nickgracilla.com/posts/obsidian-is-my-hugo-cms/ for a setup).

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

#48

The answer isn't headless WordPress. It's WordPress. You're building something for a volunteer community, which means at some point you'll be gone and somebody will be wondering how the heck to manage the site with this "custom" setup that they can't figure out with chatgpt or a youtube video. Set them up for the future, not for the now. WordPress. Just WordPress. Reference: 26+ years in hosting, 4 years in WordPress…

This is the only correct answer.

Wordpress, give them email and password, and a .pdf with screenshots on where to click to create a new post/page or edit stuff.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

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post #33

I know this is for a non-technical admin, but I just wanted to give Zola [0] a shoutout. I love the single binary approach, and it being so simple. Got my blog up and running in minutes with absolutely minimal configuration. Helps me focus on the writing rather than tinkering with the tool I think this coupled with Keystatic [1] could be a nifty little lightweight setup for most. [0] https://github.com/getzola/zola […

Too bad it doesn't quite support dates in the dir paths. I'd like to recommend a highly underappreciated single binary rewrite of Jekyll in Go: https://github.com/osteele/gojekyll

Hmm, personally I never really cared for dated paths, seems like a problem that's solved by metadata defined in the frontmatter.

my-blog-article-title.md seems enough, and dates usually feel like clutter, since titles are distinct as they are and you don't really need the date in the filename to do anything useful.

But again, different people prefer different setups.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for headless CMS recommendation

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post #34
post #33

I know this is for a non-technical admin, but I just wanted to give Zola [0] a shoutout. I love the single binary approach, and it being so simple. Got my blog up and running in minutes with absolutely minimal configuration. Helps me focus on the writing rather than tinkering with the tool I think this coupled with Keystatic [1] could be a nifty little lightweight setup for most. [0] https://github.com/getzola/zola […

Or use decap https://decapcms.org/

Decap's cool but I've never really liked their approach to UI/UX, also it was kind of painful to setup the last I tinkered with it.
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