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Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#41
post #12

Grab a VPS and use SOCKS5 tunneling via SSH.

SSH is often targeted by deep packet inspection and protocol binding filters.

i.e. One is better off tunneling over https://www.praise-the-glorious-leader.google.com.facebook.c...

include SSH traffic protocol auto-swapping on your server (i.e. no way to tell the apparent web page differs between clients), as some corporate networks are infamously invasive. People can do this all day long, and they do... =3

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#42
I'm reading posts that indicate (at least some of) the blocking is at the DNS level.

https://old-reddit-com.translate.goog/r/WkwkwkLand/comments/...

Cloudflare says some issue affecting Jakarta has been resolved. They aren't saying what the issue was.

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/1chpg2514kq8

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#43
Australia and UK might soon go down this path.

Something quite depressing is if we (HN crowd) find workarounds, most regular folks won't have the budget/expertise to do so, so citizen journalism will have been successfully muted by government / big media.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#44

On a related note, does anyone have insight into *why* the Indonesian government is doing this?

there is a major protest currently happening due to the legislative body representative just giving themselves a monthly domicile stipend of ~$3300 on top of their salaries (yes, multiple), while the average people earned ~$330 monthly. the information about the protest are not broadcasted on local TVs, so the only spread of information is through social media. i guess since a lot of people went around it using VPN, the gov decided to block it too.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#45
I was wondering something like this but in a different capacity.

What with certain countries (they know who they are) and their hatred for encryption, it got me wondering how people would communicate securely if - for example - Signal/WhatsApp/etc. pulled out and the country wound up disconnecting the submarine cables to "keep $MORAL_PANIC_OF_THE_DAY safe."

How would people communicate securely and privately in a domestic situation like that?

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#46
post #24

I'm currently traveling in Uzbekistan and am surprised that wireguard as a protocol is just blocked. I use wireguard with my own server, because usually governments just block well known VPN providers and a small individual server is fine. It's the first time I've encountered where the entire protocol is just blocked. Worth checking what is blocked and how before deciding which VPN provider to use.

Wow, kinda crazy to think about a government blocking a protocol that just simply lets two computers talk securely over a tunnel.

That is how you know they haven't got a clue on what they're doing.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#47
I'd recommend using Outline - it's a one click setup that lets you provision your own VPN on a cloud provider (or your own hardware).

Since you get to pick where the hardware is located and it is just you (or you and a small group of friends & family) using the VPN, blocking is more difficult.

If you don't want the hassle of using your own hardware you can rent a Digital Ocean droplet for https://getoutline.org/

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#48
post #12

Grab a VPS and use SOCKS5 tunneling via SSH.

SSH is often targeted by deep packet inspection and protocol binding filters. i.e. One is better off tunneling over https://www.praise-the-glorious-leader.google.com.facebook.c... include SSH traffic protocol auto-swapping on your server (i.e. no way to tell the apparent web page differs between clients), as some corporate networks are infamously invasive. People can do this all day long, and they do... =3

lolwut

At least it isn't goatse...

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#49
post #17
post #8

Aren't there local (online or print) newspapers to get news from, as an alternative to Discord? Hope I'm not asking a dumb question

In countries where it comes to government blocking/censoring internet traffic, traditional media is cleared of all dissent and fully controlled long before. Last stages of that are happening in my country, Serbia, currently.

Right, that makes sense. Did some looking up and nonfree press seems to be indeed the case for Indonesia: https://rsf.org/en/country/indonesia

It's a mixed bag apparently, free press is technically legal since 1998 but selective prosecution and harassment of those actually uncovering issues (mainly becomes clear in the last section, "Safety")

Tried looking up Serbia next on that website but got a cloudflare block. I'm a robot now...

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#50
Give Obscura a try, we get around internet restrictions by using QUIC as transport, which looks like HTTP/3 and doesn't suffer from TCP-over-TCP meltdown: https://obscura.net/

Technical details: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/

Let us know what you think!

Disclaimer: I'm the creator of Obscura.

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