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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by jghn »

dlivingston wrote: post #37
michaelteter wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... Very far left. How do you measure "far left"? Do you mean they are concerned with all people, and they don't suffer illusions of "I built my fortune on my own" (ignoring all the socialist infrastructure which enabled their success)?

Not "very far left" as in socialist / communist. "Very far left" as in "a large and vocal majority of liberals and progressives" which, when combined with the general Reddit tendency to groupthink and mock/attack opinions that aren't the subreddit status quo, make it a very uncomfortable place to be. (And I'm on the left!)

This just demonstrates how far the Overton window has shifted in US discourse if one views HN a hive of "vocal majority of liberals and progressives"

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by dlivingston »

jghn wrote: post #41
dlivingston wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not "very far left" as in socialist / communist. "Very far left" as in "a large and vocal majority of liberals and progressives" which, when combined with the general Reddit tendency to groupthink and mock/attack opinions that aren't the subreddit status quo, make it a very uncomfortable place to be. (And I'm on the left!)

This just demonstrates how far the Overton window has shifted in US discourse if one views HN a hive of "vocal majority of liberals and progressives"

My comment was regarding Reddit, not HN. I would characterize HN as left libertarian, in general.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

loveparade wrote: post #12

The funny thing is that I find HN especially useful for non tech news. It's highly biased for tech news, but only the most important normal news make it to the front page, so it's a great filter.

I don’t find HN to be a particularly good filter for general news. It’s got political, economic, geographical, and social bias alongside its topic bias.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by CalRobert »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #22
fake-name wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think HN is left ? Ha. HN is at best center-right.

Try posting anything right-wing, like government crime stats of black vs white people. You will get banned.

Lots of people here favour a lenient regulatory environment and are pro business which seems classically centre right.

Nuanced discussion of things like immigration are challenging though, in all fora I think. I’ve tried to make the point that this is a great opportunity for Europe to pick up valuable American immigrants but somehow am apparently being xenophobic by sharing data of net tax contributions of immigrants by region of origin

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by joris_w »

fake-name wrote: post #17
bufferoverflow wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck with that. Their moderation is too insane and not transparent for my taste. And, considering HN is quite far left, you won't create anything new really.

You think HN is left ? Ha. HN is at best center-right.

Conclusion: US left is western european center-right. These political denominators are all relative to your local center.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by jaynetics »

ofalkaed wrote: post #2

Oddly enough I had been considering making a similar thread but asking for something akin to HN but with less non-tech news. Perhaps the question that both I and OP are asking is, does anyone know of a site that stays on topic? >Thoughts? If this doesn’t exist, would people be interested in it being created, and does anyone think it has a chance of taking off There is absolutely a market for it but it will eventually…

Of the top 10 HN posts atm, 8 are closely related to software, one is about tech but not computers (Coventry Very Light Rail), and just one is really non-tech (My experiment living in a tent in Hong Kong's jungle).

Is that too much non-tech? Or are the tech posts not news-like enough? Or do you dislike side-tracks in the discussions?

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by kriro »

I have considered building this for my own country a couple of times. My general thought was to have left and right areas with submission/discussion a la HN and try to curate a middle of the road point if view from it. But I see too much headache dealing with the extremes and trolls. It would require more passion than I can muster.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone know of a general news site akin to Hacker News?

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Post by jaynetics »

OtherShrezzing wrote: post #44
loveparade wrote: post #12

The funny thing is that I find HN especially useful for non tech news. It's highly biased for tech news, but only the most important normal news make it to the front page, so it's a great filter.

I don’t find HN to be a particularly good filter for general news. It’s got political, economic, geographical, and social bias alongside its topic bias.

This is very true.

But perhaps the more important filtering is on quantity as opposed to neutrality? Perhaps filtering out a large amount of news, even with some bias, is the lesser evil, as compared to news outlets that depend on stirring the emotions of their readers every single day?

Wikinews used to be okay in this regard, but the German version I used has died down a bit, and the English one is even more centered on the Anglosphere than HN.

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