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Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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> Has anyone worked somewhere that they felt they could just do their job without worrying about the career advancement aspect? That's every place I've ever worked, to be honest, including tech megacorps. Lots of places will put a lot of emphasis on career advancement, but I've never seen anyone punished for not doing it. I'm not counting "won't get promoted" as a punishment, for obvious reasons.

FB (10 years ago atleast) had a timelimit to go from L4 to L5

Google as well

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

#42

Get the same job working for government. Work stability in government is unparalleled, and there is so much cruft and technical debt that you will literally spend up until your last breath fixing legacy code and trying to get people off ancient software systems. You will stagnate, and nobody will give a shit. People will come and go next to you, but you will be stable through the ages, like a pillar in an ancient Rom…

I wouldn't be so sure considering what's happening with federal govt offices in the US right now..

state & local are always options

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

#43

Personally working in smaller companies, startups (the scene probably ends somehow in 1-3 years) and academic organizations (professors have a career path, staff not) I find that no advancement is a norm.

Startups though, ugh. Maybe tomorrow you will end up a millionaire with stock, or you're eating catfood and hoping the grocery bill difference will be enough to pay the mortgage next month while you desperately look for a job in the worst economy since 2008. If there's an in-between, I've never seen it personally.

All startups that I worked paid very decently, just not FAANG level.

This no-in-between you describe is for founder only, I believe.

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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My company is very big too but if you want to be a good developer and you are happy with your normal salary increase everyone else gets, people will be happy about it because there is no budget anyway to give you a higher position.

I don't think this is a real issue if you are not wanting to make a lot of money.

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

#45

Get the same job working for government. Work stability in government is unparalleled, and there is so much cruft and technical debt that you will literally spend up until your last breath fixing legacy code and trying to get people off ancient software systems. You will stagnate, and nobody will give a shit. People will come and go next to you, but you will be stable through the ages, like a pillar in an ancient Rom…

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Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

#46

Get the same job working for government. Work stability in government is unparalleled, and there is so much cruft and technical debt that you will literally spend up until your last breath fixing legacy code and trying to get people off ancient software systems. You will stagnate, and nobody will give a shit. People will come and go next to you, but you will be stable through the ages, like a pillar in an ancient Rom…

I wouldn't be so sure considering what's happening with federal govt offices in the US right now..

Yep, I'm a federal contractor working in NIH as a data scientist, and completely agree with the above comment.

Before November, I would have said the same thing as the parent comment. After January 20th, everyone who is left is currently looking for backups in case they get laid off.

Gov and fed contractor positions used to be the most stable jobs you could get. Now, they are just as uncertain as industry jobs. It's extremely unfortunate.

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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post #42

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I wouldn't be so sure considering what's happening with federal govt offices in the US right now..

state & local are always options

Government adjacent jobs with NGOs that are not federal government funded might also be options.

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be so sure considering what's happening with federal govt offices in the US right now..

state & local are always options

yeah... There is always a niche in government. Plus, I haven't heard of many layoffs affecting software teams in government. Some people are so deeply rooted in their specific concerns that taking them out of a codebase is borderline like cutting the wrong cable on a bomb.

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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Personally working in smaller companies, startups (the scene probably ends somehow in 1-3 years) and academic organizations (professors have a career path, staff not) I find that no advancement is a norm.

Startups though, ugh. Maybe tomorrow you will end up a millionaire with stock, or you're eating catfood and hoping the grocery bill difference will be enough to pay the mortgage next month while you desperately look for a job in the worst economy since 2008. If there's an in-between, I've never seen it personally.

The ones I worked at paid me decently in terms of cash except for the one I tried to start myself. In those cases I was wanted for special skills and experience and not being a generic applications developer.

It's not unusual for people, in the case of an acqui-hire, to get a payout of $250k or so.

Re: Ask HN: Any jobs that don't force you to always be advancing career wise?

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Are they a rockstar dentist tho?

Mine's a 10x dentist.

Your dental offices needs an hour for a routine teeth cleaning.

Mine does it in six minutes. 10x, baby. I can't afford to waste my own precious 10x engineering time on sitting in a chair dealing with such a mundane affair. 10x all the things!

Rather painful, though.

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