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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by mrweasel »

deadbabe wrote: post #35

Don’t understand these people who can’t work without ChatGPT. Just look stuff up on stack overflow.

You joke, but development is getting weird and perhaps to dependent on online services. People can't work when, ChatGPT, Github, AWS, NPM (add any other package manager you'd like) or Stack Overflow (this seems less important these days) is down.

These services are accumulative and the chance that any one of of those services being down at any given time is increasing every time we add a new online dependency.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by jascination »

manmal wrote: post #38
novaRom wrote: post #28

Don't put all your eggs into one basket - what are some good free alternatives? I mean comparable "usefulness" including image understanding, voice interface, and general knowledge?

Not free, but something I‘m doing right now: Using Cursor‘s chat mode with my prepaid Anthropic key. Works pretty well as a stop gap.

What's the difference when using your own anthropic key vs vanilla? Are you hitting limits with Claude in cursor that they key unlocks?

I ask cos I use it very liberally and haven't had any issues that have made me consider adding a key, except when I made it read my whole codebase on every request

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by disqard »

kshacker wrote: post #39
deadbabe wrote: post #35

Don’t understand these people who can’t work without ChatGPT. Just look stuff up on stack overflow.

ChatGPT does much better when it gets it right. Stackoverflow will have duplicates, approximates and what not and sometimes that works. But at other times, you hunt for a half hour before you figure it out. You can throw the problem at ChatGPT, it may go wrong but your course correct it with simple instructions and slowly but steadily you move towards your goal with minimal noise of the irrelevant discussions. What s…

I'm with you (I use Claude Sonnet, but same difference...).

I do wonder if we're the last generation that will be able to effectively do such "course correct" operations -- feels like a good chunk of the next generation of programmers will be bootstrapped using such LLMs, so their ability to "have that insight" will be lacking, or be very challenging to bootstrap. As analogy, do you find yourself having to "course correct" the compiler very often?

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by Yawrehto »

Mond_ wrote: post #37
novaRom wrote: post #28

Don't put all your eggs into one basket - what are some good free alternatives? I mean comparable "usefulness" including image understanding, voice interface, and general knowledge?

If you're using ChatGPT actively, then surely you have heard of Gemini and Grok (no clue of how far Grok gets you nowadays, but Gemini should. Not sure how good the voice interface is).

I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data.

Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by belter »

0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #21

Looks like Azure is experiencing a major outage, but I cannot find anything about it. If you look at downdetector.com you'll notice reported outages from OpenAI, Microsoft 365, XBox Live, Walmart, the list goes on.

> Looks like Azure is experiencing a major outage...

Does Azure have any other state? :-)

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by s1gsegv »

novaRom wrote: post #28

Don't put all your eggs into one basket - what are some good free alternatives? I mean comparable "usefulness" including image understanding, voice interface, and general knowledge?

I’ve been loving having mistral-nemo on my laptop. Not comparable for images, voice, etc, however it is very nice when you’re away from the internet. For the cost of a couple gigabytes you get to keep a good amount of info at the ready. Very easy to run models these days, install Ollama and then do `ollama run mistral-nemo`.

Plus mistral-nemo in particular has a large context window, so you can cook up some shell scripts to throw a bunch of context into the buffer before your question. One I use a lot takes the name of a manpage and a question about it, then the LLM has the whole manpage to reference.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by porphyra »

manmal wrote: post #40
porphyra wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grok 2 is available for free for all X users [1] [1] https://x.ai/blog/grok-1212

Is it comparable with OpenAI’s and Anthropic’s models? I have a strong resistance towards using Musk‘s products nowadays, but maybe I should take a look over the fence.

In terms of general purpose usage and image understanding, I think Grok 2 is pretty good and roughly on par with ChatGPT 4o. Grok 2 will also look for online sources similar to ChatGPT search which is nice. I've occasionally had it report irrelevant results when doing so though --- for example when I was looking up the price of a car it once found some random webpage with the price in rupees even though I'm in the US.

For logical reasoning of course chain-of-thought models like the O1 family are better.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by franze »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #36
novaRom wrote: post #28

Don't put all your eggs into one basket - what are some good free alternatives? I mean comparable "usefulness" including image understanding, voice interface, and general knowledge?

General knowledge? Five times in two weeks I've asked OpenAI some basic factual information and it didn't get even close on any of them.

Dont ask GPTs for facts, thats a knowledge problem, they dont habe any.

Ask it for reasoning, u habe to bring the facts.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by decremental »

Yawrehto wrote: post #44
Mond_ wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using ChatGPT actively, then surely you have heard of Gemini and Grok (no clue of how far Grok gets you nowadays, but Gemini should. Not sure how good the voice interface is).

I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data. Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)

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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by kshacker »

disqard wrote: post #43
kshacker wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT does much better when it gets it right. Stackoverflow will have duplicates, approximates and what not and sometimes that works. But at other times, you hunt for a half hour before you figure it out. You can throw the problem at ChatGPT, it may go wrong but your course correct it with simple instructions and slowly but steadily you move towards your goal with minimal noise of the irrelevant discussions. What s…

I'm with you (I use Claude Sonnet, but same difference...). I do wonder if we're the last generation that will be able to effectively do such "course correct" operations -- feels like a good chunk of the next generation of programmers will be bootstrapped using such LLMs, so their ability to "have that insight" will be lacking, or be very challenging to bootstrap. As analogy, do you find yourself having to "course co…

Many a times.

I asked it a simple non programming question. My last paycheck was December 20, 2024. I get paid biweekly. In which year will I get paid 27 times. It got it wrong ... very articulately.

I run into this every single day.

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