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The details of how it works mostly won't matter unless you're trying to get really specific with how a plugin works. For a filter in Photoshop, you don't find many tutorials on the underlying algorithms, you usually find guidance on when and why to move the slider.
To OP -- We work with professional artists regularly, and I'm seeing things pick up as more begin to understand the potential for creative control. Artists mainly want to be afforded creative flexibility and control, and need an interface that feels natural for their workflow.
Invoke is OSS, we release continued training/education on a weekly basis (free, on YT) and we'll be releasing a simplified installer soon.
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Obsolete for what purpose? I dont think any aspiring artist, professional or otherwise, was ever deeply concerned about their future prospects in creating corporate graphics or mechanical pop songs. It was a fast buck, that’s all. Attempting to seduce them into committing ever more of their creative efforts in the service of a machine that only seeks to churn out more artifacts misses the entire point of ever startin…
I'm an amateur musical artist and writer of literature, and while I agree with you on the importance of the creative act - fundamentally speaking, I've come to accept that my music practice, like a good diet and exercise routine and spending quality time with loved ones, is just something I have to do if I want to be truly happy - I disagree that artifacts don't matter. I think that in my case, and I suspect the case…
The way you said this makes me think you agree with OP. The piece that You made is the embodiment of your experience, which can connect with someone at a certain level.
It's you, the piece is just the end result.
Could you do the same with an AI music generator where you input a prompt? Maybe the same amount of people would connect with it, but are you as an artist connected with it? Does that prompt embody your expression? I doubt it.
These things hardly matter for artists. Most artists don't even know how a Gaussian blur filter works and they can still produce astonishing artworks.
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Not everyone finds solace in this strategy. Understanding how the blade is forged as it pierces you may be a mundane final thought. But if you survive I suppose you can use that knowledge to pierce others and destroy their planned futures. Let them pivot or let them starve?
Pivoting to some hybrid of generative AI with human edits is appealing to software developers but soulless and essentially anethema to many others.
ideally I'd like something that explains _how_ diffusion models work, their probabilistic nature, how they're trained on images/text
How they work is probably out of scope of an artist. They’ll figure it out given some knobs, and honestly you cannot explain any of it, you have to get the feeling. Cause it’s not only probabilistic, but island-y. What worked yesterday may noy work today. You have to train yourself on these parameters.
Comfy
Is basically a bash-like visual programming. Cool for developers and repeatable workflows, but overkill and overwhelming for a beginner.
Problems.
The most problems come from python management. Python versions, libraries, plugins breaking the env, etc. you have to prepare some pre-built folders (or cloud images) for them. So that it just works. Then I’d download a few popular checkpoints andshow them the inpaint (mask) tab in a1111. I think that this tab will create a good first impression required for further interest.
As a sort of a poor artist myself, it was amazing to see how SD can take two sprites and inpaint them together across a masked edge. Or replace a segment with a completely new content. (Although for them it may look meh)
Txt2img is not that wow, cause everyone is already tired of it.
Can’t point to resources, sorry, I learned from the internet by googling all my questions.
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Obsolete for what purpose? I dont think any aspiring artist, professional or otherwise, was ever deeply concerned about their future prospects in creating corporate graphics or mechanical pop songs. It was a fast buck, that’s all. Attempting to seduce them into committing ever more of their creative efforts in the service of a machine that only seeks to churn out more artifacts misses the entire point of ever startin…
I'm an amateur musical artist and writer of literature, and while I agree with you on the importance of the creative act - fundamentally speaking, I've come to accept that my music practice, like a good diet and exercise routine and spending quality time with loved ones, is just something I have to do if I want to be truly happy - I disagree that artifacts don't matter. I think that in my case, and I suspect the case…
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> Obsolete… The fucking hubris There are some real dangers here that need to be navigated. Junior artists who get their start doing commissions are not going to have that path anymore. Reddit's job boards for junior artists are a literal desert now. In a sense, the activation energy gradient to producing good results has lowered such that the economic reward for up and coming artists has deteriorated. > Why don’t you…
For now. It’s just market forces being unsure about the future of hiring artists. Companies are like lemmings, they just follow one another. Artists already know that gen AI is just another tool in the toolbox. We’re just waiting for MBAs to also realize this. GenAI making artists obsolete is a dumb idea. No MBA is going to be trying to coax a GenAI model into making an image.
This is true for just about everything, honestly. The more you play with these tools (and use them in anger to do real shit) the more you push their boundaries and learn what they are good for and what they aren’t. You also quickly realize, like any other computer tool, there is a certain skill you need to have in order to provoke these things into generating the output you expect.
They can be time savers but also time wasters.
But what they aren’t gonna do is make the employees of entire industries vanish overnight. But I will say you’d be a fool to ignore these tools because once you master them they can be a pretty awesome force multiplier.
That all being said, many times it feels like it’s just a fancy, more annoying Alexa that you have to fight with to get the results you want. But alas…
I can draw well. But I don't associate my identity with it. So I am not an artist. I write well but I am not a writer. I am happy to delegate these forms of work to AI, the same way I'll delegate laundry to washing machines.
For someone who calls themselves an artist, their identity is centered around their ability to draw.
Photographers will use editing tools. Most don't mind tools. A photo editor enhances the photo, the core still comes from composition, lighting, etc.
I would start here. Show that it could be useful first. How can AI white balance dozens of photos? A favorite use of AI among artists is doing different resolutions, expanding a small image into a capsule or cover image.