Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

news.ycombinator.com

41–50 of 101 posts

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#41

I'll offer a weird but (I hope) valid alternative to the other great suggestions here: print the code of the static webpage on a piece of paper. Even better, archival paper [0], so it will really last a long time. In the future, anyone would be able to point a... smartphone, or a camera, to the paper, and instantly retrieve the webpage. An AI will ask them if they want to render the page using one of these very, very…

I think OP said he wants it on the Internet.

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#42
post #14

I doubt that people will know what to do with the "2D barcode" in 100 years. Someone who is willing to investigate will figure it out. But it is not something that will be convenient. I for example wouldn't know what to do with a barcode even today.

You can use your phone+ an app to scan it, just because you can't figure that out doesn't mean people in 100 years are going to be morons.

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#43

Ultimately you have to give a human direct responsibility for it; or in your case, a series of humans. I'd suggest you do buy a domain, but set up a legal/financial framework so that a long-standing law firm will keep up the payments for N decades (or for as long as the firm & its successors exist).

This is exactly the wrong advice, instead put your data on the blockchain, preferably Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash or Ethereum. "Free" data storage for as long as the internet exists. Make the barcode to your transaction with the data, anyone with a brain and time can figure it out from there.

Whether its right or wrong advice depends on GPs audience.

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#44
Just put it on your own domain and keep it there while you're alive. Renewing it is not that hard, especially with auto-renew on a credit card.

And make sure the Internet Archive indexes it. When people find old links that don't resolve anymore, IA is where they go.

Don't overthink this. Nothing lasts forever, but right now I'd say IA is the most likely repository to survive over the longest term, certainly in comparison to any for-profit company.

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#45

Ultimately you have to give a human direct responsibility for it; or in your case, a series of humans. I'd suggest you do buy a domain, but set up a legal/financial framework so that a long-standing law firm will keep up the payments for N decades (or for as long as the firm & its successors exist).

This is exactly the wrong advice, instead put your data on the blockchain, preferably Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash or Ethereum. "Free" data storage for as long as the internet exists. Make the barcode to your transaction with the data, anyone with a brain and time can figure it out from there.

? "Free" data storage for as long as the internet exists.

The big blockchains are robust, but I'm wondering if it's not impossible for them to not need the full blockchain at some point.

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#47

Ultimately you have to give a human direct responsibility for it; or in your case, a series of humans. I'd suggest you do buy a domain, but set up a legal/financial framework so that a long-standing law firm will keep up the payments for N decades (or for as long as the firm & its successors exist).

This is exactly the wrong advice, instead put your data on the blockchain, preferably Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash or Ethereum. "Free" data storage for as long as the internet exists. Make the barcode to your transaction with the data, anyone with a brain and time can figure it out from there.

What generalizations suggests is what people have been doing successfully for hundreds of years to maintain things much more complicated than a website (a multi-generational family estate, for example). What you're suggesting has never been tried for any period of time. Tell me again how his advice is wrong and yours is right?

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#48

Ultimately you have to give a human direct responsibility for it; or in your case, a series of humans. I'd suggest you do buy a domain, but set up a legal/financial framework so that a long-standing law firm will keep up the payments for N decades (or for as long as the firm & its successors exist).

This is exactly the wrong advice, instead put your data on the blockchain, preferably Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash or Ethereum. "Free" data storage for as long as the internet exists. Make the barcode to your transaction with the data, anyone with a brain and time can figure it out from there.

> "Free" data storage for as long as the internet exists.

Oh ye of so much faith.

Re: Ask HN: Where to put a static page that would last forever

#49

I'll offer a weird but (I hope) valid alternative to the other great suggestions here: print the code of the static webpage on a piece of paper. Even better, archival paper [0], so it will really last a long time. In the future, anyone would be able to point a... smartphone, or a camera, to the paper, and instantly retrieve the webpage. An AI will ask them if they want to render the page using one of these very, very…

OP said:

> In the back of the book, I'd like to put a 2D barcode to send folks to a static webpage somewhere, maybe for further information, an update, text changes, etc.

How are you going to put the update/text change into the printed book? I think the point was tobe able to change the info when the books are already distributed.

Post reply on HN