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Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#41

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The steep price of removing them: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...

At some point they'll just embed into the video stream. TBH I had assumed they were already doing this. EDIT: Still, point taken. I'll try to figure out how to install this on my home router—I don't ever watch youtube from my browser.

They have, and for that we have SponsorBlock https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#42

Google SSO, for some reason it redirects through YouTube

They use it for 2FA also. Sometimes when I'm signing on to my google account from a new device, it asks me to open the YouTube app on my phone and authorize the sign-in.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#43

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So you wouldn't actually pay a modest fee.

When you're paying for a service, you generally expect something better than a third-party can achieve by deleting parts of your free offering.

This is moving the goal posts and completely arbitrary. There are many services that are ad supported and have a paid version without the ads.

For some reason, free and ad free YouTube seems like a birthright to so many people.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#44

It wouldn't be the work of a couple of hours and changing DNS records. Youtube runs on Google hardware in Google datacenters running proprietary Google software that integrates throughout the Google proprietary ecosystem. Everything will break. Realistically, once the division is somehow negotiated through, Youtube will have to find a way to make enough money to support its operations, and would find itself in the sa…

Not just data centers, a world wide network with servers in POPs in like every city in the world, and peering with every residential network in the world (and cache nodes on them)

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#45

YouTube would die. Although it generates a large amount of revenue, YouTube's costs are substantially higher. It provides Google with engagement and a prime source of user data, so subsidising it has been an acceptable trade-off for Alphabet. Recent attempts to increase revenue, although partially successful, have shown that the platform is unlikely to pay its own way because universal accessibility is fundamental to…

What if the free tier was illegalised by the court order?

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#46

YouTube would die. Although it generates a large amount of revenue, YouTube's costs are substantially higher. It provides Google with engagement and a prime source of user data, so subsidising it has been an acceptable trade-off for Alphabet. Recent attempts to increase revenue, although partially successful, have shown that the platform is unlikely to pay its own way because universal accessibility is fundamental to…

They can still sell those data, to Alphabet, Meta, whomever, all of them

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#47

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I'd pay a modest fee for a non-tracking, ad-free, non-enshittified YouTube though. Compete for my money!

There are options for you, like Floatplane and Nebula. The problem is universal - their curated content has limited appeal. The YouTube model is more attractive to people, so more people upload content to a larger audience. I have no confidence that a paid-only platform could reach 1/100th of the traffic YouTube gets in a similar timespan. As a customer you really just have to ask yourself what you're willing to give…

Nebula is more like Netflix for vlogs and explainers as it lacks comments and livestreams.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#48

Search of youtube is absolutely horrendous so I don't see any additional harm to from splitting them. And of course the benefits are so large as to be difficult to enumerate.

What’s horrendous about it in particular?

It frequently shows me videos that have nothing to do with the query, within the top 10 results. I'm not talking about being not precise; it's something that has completely no relevance.

For example, searching for recipes sometimes shows me Political News, and sometimes the news is even in a different country, and in a language that I don't speak.

Sometimes I also get a few results that are not just irrelevant, but intentionally made to have a visually repulsive thumbnail, like a zoomed-in shot of some skin pathology, which is something that I never search for or click upon. No idea what is happening there.

Re: Ask HN: What do you think would happen if Google and YouTube split?

#50

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What’s horrendous about it in particular?

How to search for actual videos instead of random shorts that people put together on a phone for some god-forsaken social media credit? Protip: you can't filter out those "shorts". How to block some posters from ever showing up in my search results?...

There are plenty of browser extension to filter away shorts. I.e. Enhancer for YouTube: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/enhancer-for-youtub...
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